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hft_boy
 

Registered: Apr 2012
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06-15-12 12:12 AM

Hi,
I want to short the Spanish/German bond spread, i.e. sell German bonds and buy Spanish ones. Which broker will let me do so? I have an account with Interactive Brokers, but they only have trading of American bonds, apparently.

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hft_boy
 

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06-18-12 01:32 AM

Bump. Moderators, is this in the wrong section?

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lionline
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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06-19-12 02:57 PM


Quote from hft_boy:

Bump. Moderators, is this in the wrong section?



PM me - i may have someone for you

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just21
 

Registered: Feb 2002
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06-19-12 03:01 PM

You have access to german and italian bond futures from eurex on ib.

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hft_boy
 

Registered: Apr 2012
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06-19-12 06:51 PM

Thanks lionline, I PMed you.


Quote from just21:

You have access to german and italian bond futures from eurex on ib.



Thanks - I already looked into these though. There's BTP, which I think delivers a basket of Italian bonds, and there's also OAT which is the equivalent for French bonds.

I'm not particularly interested in these futures, because I couldn't find an exact equivalent for German bonds, and I don't particularly want to construct a synthetic basket of German bonds, mostly because of capital constraints.

Also, the Italian bonds aren't as cheap as Spanish bonds, so I'm thinking that the opportunity there isn't as good. The Spanish/German 10 year yield is 7/1.5, I mean jeez. In comparison, the Italian/French yield is 'only' 5.9/2.7, or about half as much. So I do want to buy Spanish bonds directly and not proxy them through Italian bonds.

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EquityGuy4321
 

Registered: Sep 2004
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06-19-12 07:56 PM

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Please look at the futures again. They do not deliver a basket, rather they will deliver a bond, which will be the cheapest-to-deliver. In any case, you will not care about that as you only need exposure to the instrument, not the instrument itself.

You are going to need someone that will let you do the repo to short the cash bonds. Hard to do unless you have enough capital to get the relationship.

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