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Discipline101
 

Registered: Jun 2012
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06-12-12 04:09 AM

Do most people here subscribe to the idea that there are times when you should completely stay out of the market? I was reading an article about it, and the guy said just don't even trade for long long periods of time.

Is that true?

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Albert Cibiades
 

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 504

 

06-12-12 05:05 AM


Quote from Discipline101:

Do most people here subscribe to the idea that there are times when you should completely stay out of the market? I was reading an article about it, and the guy said just don't even trade for long long periods of time.

Is that true?



I tend to do that mostly when I am asleep.

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Div_Arb
 

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 706

 

06-12-12 05:24 AM

Absolutely. There are certain times when an edge simply doesn't exist. you can force a position, but usually the market just chews you up and spits you out. My edge diminished right after April option expiration to May expiration. As a result, i only take A++ setups and risk a quarter to a half of what I usually do. Jessee livermore has some good quotes on staying out fo the market that i am too tired to type here. Do some searches and I'm sure you'll find them.

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achilles28
 

Registered: Apr 2005
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06-20-12 04:35 AM

Indeed. Trend followers get chopped up in ranges. Range traders get chopped up in trends. Usually, the best advice is to pullback and trade higher time frames (10-15-30 mins etc). The sub 5 minute time frames alternate between trend and chop throughout the day and can trigger many losses. Best to trade RMH, during peak volatility.

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murray t turtle
 

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 6268

 

06-25-12 06:06 PM


Quote from achilles28:

Indeed. Trend followers get chopped up in ranges. Range traders get chopped up in trends. Usually, the best advice is to pullback and trade higher time frames (10-15-30 mins etc). The sub 5 minute time frames alternate between trend and chop throughout the day and can trigger many losses. Best to trade RMH, during peak volatility.


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A28;
Neat words.
amen on the higher time frames[10-15-30]

Ten, fifteen, thirty[Also,10 years, 15 months,30 days];
can include some great trends./low comssions/costs. Some 30 minute ''ranges'' or sideways trends i name them , are just a pause on a great up trend or great downtrend.

Most of the money made in markets[past 200 years, in US];
is made in investnents, not trading .

But by definition;
a trading time stop gets hit . So yes, i sometimes use ''time stops''. 'Disciple 101, good question, not that trading research stops...................................................

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achilles28
 

Registered: Apr 2005
Posts: 7534

 

06-27-12 10:19 AM

Nice post, Murry. Thanks for hint on time-stops. Makes perfect sense. Never really got that aha until now

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