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lwlee
 

Registered: Dec 1999
Posts: 1099

 

05-28-12 04:42 PM

Not at all. My current build is pretty quiet. Bought a decent CPU fan with alum/copper connects. Decent midrange GPU.

Both of those things can go into a standard miniATX board.

We are taking moderate performance here, not OCing so don't need all that extra cooling.


Quote from ElectricSavant:

They are noisy and hot....

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atticus
 

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 12600

 

05-28-12 05:50 PM

As Random suggested; just get a Dell and upgrade to onsite warranty.

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NetTecture
 

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 1010

 

05-28-12 09:41 PM

> Does Dell still produce something that is hard to kill?

Noone does, everyone does.

This is only a gamble, sorry. 3 years is a lot of time - not saying machienes are not robust, but even if you get a passively cooled system (low power, but ok) there is a chance you just get some crapped out RAM.

Anyhow, you need:
* SOmething with no moving parts, sorry ;) THat is a low power Atom - anything with a FAN has a chance that you must replace the FAN. Warranties of Dell are USELESS for your requirements -because you talk about "not needing the warranty".

Just yesterday my secretaries computer failed. Reset for patching. no start - hard disc did not come up. Bad luck - nothing would be different with a Dell. Now - the Warranty may mean Dell ships you another one, but that is not the question ;) The machine is out. Not that it took us long - replace disc, reinstall OS (nothing stored there anyway). But anything mechanic may fail.

The only way to do that is:
* Run 2+ machines - 3 is standard.
* Program in such a way that the system handles the loss of 2 machines.

If you want tom inimize the risk on one system, you need a system that has zero moving parts (SSD, no fans) and is redundant on important stuff (ssd mirrored, ECC ram, dual power supply hot swappable, get a GOOD USV to reduce downtime and scrub your power).

Point.

If that is not possible, GET 2-3 machines - keep them ready. If that must work, then waiting for spares does not work. Sorry ;) Life is as it is.

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easymon1
 

Registered: Sep 2007
Posts: 163

 

05-29-12 01:25 AM


Quote from shopster:

this works.

much easier to pull the trigger on your trades.

the 2 laptops are backup.

s



Shopster, that rig's in the back of a truck and it ain't for trading. What's behind the lens is more interesting, no?

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easymon1
 

Registered: Sep 2007
Posts: 163

 

05-29-12 01:32 AM


Quote from WinstonTJ:

This is exactly what I sell to a lot of traders.

Dell Precision 490 Workstation - get one on eBay for ~$150-$200, upgrade the RAM + HDD + CPU's and for less than $750 you have an awesome workhorse that will rival a new/modern i7 machine.

If you have any questions PM me. Happy to recommend a shopping list for you to DIY or I can build one for you.

(please know i'm laid up right now after being on the losing end of a bad car vs. motorcycle accident so i have one hand in a cast and tons of dr's appts... might take me a while to answer your PM)



Winston, All the best to you and a swift recovery.

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WinstonTJ
 

Registered: Jan 2009
Posts: 1947

 

05-29-12 02:05 AM

thx for the recovery wishes - dr is taking out the pins tomorrow & wed... still grosses me out to think about metal rods half in my bonr & half exposed to the air...

Just get a Dell P490 or T5400. They are great & cheap & robust as a mo-fo...

the old 64-bit PCI cards are now cheap and will kick butt...

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