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Scataphagos
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06-04-12 03:18 PM
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As for new vs old, if a pc is very old then it is probably too old. I have an 13 yrs old thinkpad that still runs very well, all the hardware parts are working even though it has taken a lot of abuses from my kids. But the problem is that it has no wireless moderm, no earthnet jacket, no UBS port, and only 32 MB RAM.
"Very old" has the problem of obsolescence. Most of what's being debated here is "a few years old but of high quality" vs. "new, cheap quality".
How does one decide? I say, "go for a quality motherboard". The other components are mostly "off the shelf/same" for all makers.
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johnkurtz
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06-04-12 03:22 PM
Quote from pepper_john:
As for new vs old, if a pc is very old then it is probably too old. I have an 13 yrs old thinkpad that still runs very well, all the hardware parts are working even though it has taken a lot of abuses from my kids. But the problem is that it has no wireless moderm, no earthnet jacket, no UBS port, and only 32 MB RAM.
When buying a used machine how do you know how many 10's of thousands of hours those components have seen, and that it won't fail tomorrow? Workstations are more often than not staay on 24/7/365.
Better buy two and setup both in advance because if one goes down..
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Scataphagos
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06-04-12 03:24 PM
Quote from johnkurtz:
When buying a used machine how do you know how many 10's of thousands of hours those components have seen, and that it won't fail tomorrow? Workstations are more often than not staay on 24/7/365.
Better buy two and setup both in advance because if one goes down..
"Staying on 24/7/365" doesn't wear on components as much as turning them on/off a lot. Besides, we're not talking about trying to buy stuff which is 10-15 years old.
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Scataphagos
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06-04-12 03:25 PM
Quote from johnkurtz:
When buying a used machine how do you know how many 10's of thousands of hours those components have seen, and that it won't fail tomorrow? Workstations are more often than not staay on 24/7/365.
Better buy two and setup both in advance because if one goes down..
"Staying on 24/7/365"* doesn't wear on components as much as turning them on/off a lot. Besides, we're not talking about trying to buy stuff which is 10-15 years old.
* Did you know? ...There is a light bulb in a firehouse which has been burning CONTINUOUSLY FOR MORE THAN 100 YEARS!!
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Scataphagos
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06-04-12 03:33 PM
Quote from johnkurtz:
When buying a used machine how do you know how many 10's of thousands of hours those components have seen, and that it won't fail tomorrow? Workstations are more often than not staay on 24/7/365.
Gigabyte just announced the new version of it's "Ultradurable" line... I also read an article about an ECS(?) mobo which they virtually claim "will last FOREVER"...
Mostly what I'm saying... "Get a quality motherboard and you'll likely not be disappointed in performance and reliability". (I estimate 80% of the world's desktop computers have some version of the ubiquitous el-cheap mobo... costs about $20. Quality motherboards usually cost $200+ when new and current.... but they're still "quality" when they are no longer leading edge.)
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johnkurtz
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06-04-12 03:37 PM
Quote from Scataphagos:
Gigabyte just announced the new version of it's "Ultradurable" line... I also read an article about an ECS(?) mobo which they virtually claim "will last FOREVER"...
Mostly what I'm saying... "Get a quality motherboard and you'll likely not be disappointed in performance and reliability". (I estimate 80% of the world's desktop computers have some version of the ubiquitous el-cheap mobo... costs about $20. Quality motherboards usually cost $200+ when new and current.... but they're still "quality" when they are no longer leading edge.)
Great point. I wonder if the motherboard is not the weak spot that fails most often. Do you know if this is true, or which component or components are most vunerable?
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