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fusionz
 

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 139

 

03-28-12 02:20 AM

I am planning to declare MTM and I know that you need to send an attachment, but if I am planning to efile my return, do I just add a page to the electronic file, and that would be sufficient?

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gkishot
 

Registered: Jul 2005
Posts: 1709

 

03-28-12 02:22 AM

You need to get a trader status first.

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Bob111
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 6400

 

03-28-12 03:32 AM


Quote from gkishot:

You need to get a trader status first.



and everything that comes with it

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc429.html

* You must seek to profit from daily market movements in the prices of securities and not from dividends, interest, or capital appreciation.
* Your activity must be substantial, and
* You must carry on the activity with continuity and regularity.

The following facts and circumstances should be considered in determining if your activity is a securities trading business:

* Typical holding periods for securities bought and sold.
* The frequency and dollar amount of your trades during the year.
* The extent to which you pursue the activity to produce income for a livelihood, and
* The amount of time you devote to the activity.

---If you have made a valid election under section 475(f), the only way to stop using mark-to-market accounting for securities is to request and receive written permission from the Service to revoke the election. Non-filing of the Form 3115 mentioned above will not invalidate a timely and valid election. To request permission to revoke your election under section 475(f), you must file a second Form 3115 and pay a fee. ----


easy to get into,not so easy to get out. specially for individual.

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fusionz
 

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 139

 

03-28-12 07:49 AM

yes I would definitely qualify as trader...thing is, how did you guys send the attachment for declaring as MTM?

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Robert A. Green
 

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 656

 

04-15-12 08:56 PM


Quote from fusionz:

I am planning to declare MTM and I know that you need to send an attachment, but if I am planning to efile my return, do I just add a page to the electronic file, and that would be sufficient?



Paper file the federal extension and attach the Section 475 MTM election statement to that extension. There is no way to make that election statement with an e-filed extension.

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stock777
 

Registered: Jul 2001
Posts: 15405

 

04-15-12 09:58 PM


Quote from Bob111:




easy to get into,not so easy to get out. specially for individual. [/B]




Interestingly, you can easily qualify when trading actively , then in subsequent years back off heavy trading. In that case I don't think you lose the mtm status .

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