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beachhouse
 

Registered: Oct 2011
Posts: 260

 

03-07-12 05:01 PM


Quote from tenthousandmen:

Who are you to say what higher education is with your background?




Your poor English grammar indicates that you need higher education.

Man, get an MBA from a reputable university, like University of Phoenix, or University of Crappella.

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Handle123
 

Registered: Aug 2007
Posts: 1051

 

03-08-12 01:13 PM


Quote from emg:

Another thing, the point of me showing proofs why small traders lose is to make them understand what is trading all about. Most of these newbies are duped by 3rd party educational vendors/signal providers making them believing u can make a living trading with as little as $3000.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_exchange_fraud


Between 2001 and 2006 the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission has prosecuted more than 80 cases involving the defrauding of more than 23,000 customers who lost $350 million. From 2001 to 2007, about 26,000 people lost $460 million in forex frauds


That is not trading.


IF u want to become a trader, Higher Education is the path.


Higher Education!!



The problem of almost all that buy methods, they never had the disipline to trade whatever they made and spring for a method, and still lack disipline. Plus, we live in a world of flex, new traders don't have the ability to alter methods or identify changes have to be made. Like when markets goes into chop, targets must be lowered. new traders are much more greedy than experienced, they change targets trying to get much more, when they could have gotten 10.00 points on five trades in ES, they end up with nothing cause they were trying to make homeruns, where the experienced go home profitable.

And $3000 is very doable, but you have to sim trade, and if you can't make profits 13 of 15 days, real time you will crumble and become bait.

Education has much to do with investing in stocks, reading financials, but trading, good if you learn programming and have intense desires to excel with games. Trading is a game, thats it, play to win, don't get married to your trade.

Yes, there is fraud from many venders, as they lie to sell their products and they should be fined, but there are so many greedy people who won't devote the time to overcome the intense work needed to become profitable. They rather come to this site and post thousands of reasons they can't make it.

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cornix
 

Registered: Jan 2011
Posts: 3032

 

03-09-12 07:33 AM


Quote from Handle123:

The problem of almost all that buy methods, they never had the disipline to trade whatever they made and spring for a method, and still lack disipline. Plus, we live in a world of flex, new traders don't have the ability to alter methods or identify changes have to be made. Like when markets goes into chop, targets must be lowered. new traders are much more greedy than experienced, they change targets trying to get much more, when they could have gotten 10.00 points on five trades in ES, they end up with nothing cause they were trying to make homeruns, where the experienced go home profitable.



Very good points here. Consistent adaptation is the key to consistent profitability. When one can distinguish chop/range from the trend, she/he can manage trades differently and get optimal profit.

Those who cannot adapt, trade the same way all the time and are doomed to have periods of serious drawdowns, because they either suffer from the trend or from the chop (depending on which kind of strategy they employ).

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Mysteron
 

Registered: Apr 2010
Posts: 431

 

03-11-12 12:23 AM



I'd say spotting opportunities that are developing and waiting for a high probability entry is important. WLT had an excessive range that day so a short entry at the right time and conditions, was likely to succeed.

Equivalent to the obvious statement: 'let winners run and cut loosers' is the ability to take a look at one self and eliminate bad behaviour. Keep asking yourself 'what did I do wrong?', make a note of it and stop doing it.

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RCG Trader
 

Registered: Dec 2009
Posts: 10333

 

03-11-12 12:31 AM


Quote from Mysteron:



I'd say spotting opportunities that are developing and waiting for a high probability entry is important. WLT had an excessive range that day so a short entry at the right time and conditions, was likely to succeed.

Equivalent to the obvious statement: let winners run and cut loosers is the ability to take a look at one self and eliminate bad behaviour. Keep asking yourself 'what did I do wrong?', make a note of it and stop doing it.



lol, there is almost 100 pips profit on that chart, and you circle just one thing??

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Mysteron
 

Registered: Apr 2010
Posts: 431

 

03-11-12 12:38 AM


Quote from RCG Trader:

lol, there is almost 100 pips profit on that chart, and you circle just one thing??



LOL, you don't have any idea how I spotted that opportunity amongst the thousands of other charts I could have have looked at.

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