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mfbreakout
 

Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 1522

 

02-01-12 08:55 PM


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CL daily chart.

So, I will be shorting bounces till CL closes above key levels. As day traders we get to trade both from long side and short side.

I just feel more confident to short with more size vs longs till facts change.

Long 97.22 target yesterday low of 97.86. daily support 97.39-97.26



I am pure day trader. No overnight position thinking CL will go to 98.50 etc..

So flat 9752. I like to trade CL fresh everyday with a CLEAN SHEET.

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smallStops
 

Registered: Oct 2011
Posts: 1049

 

02-01-12 09:04 PM

Hi,

I always wondered about acd :

- what time do you use for your opening range?
- and what value do you use for A plus/down, and Cdown/plus if these are all different. Any idea how to determine these values?

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mfbreakout
 

Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 1522

 

02-01-12 10:45 PM


Quote from smallStops:

Hi,

I always wondered about acd :

- what time do you use for your opening range?
- and what value do you use for A plus/down, and Cdown/plus if these are all different. Any idea how to determine these values?



I use 45 minutes OR. Traders who like to fade moves use wide OR like me. Pure breakout traders use smaller OR like 5 minutes, 10 minutes etc.. Key is to pick one time frame and stick with it.

A value= 8 ticks, C value=13 ticks. There is nothing magic about A and C values. Smaller values are OK for wide OR.

For small time frames like 5 minutes one has to use more than 8 ticks. I have no idea what that is as it depends on each trader style.

Calculation of A and C values is done via 20 days ATR of instrument and then some multiplier to accommodate for VOLATILITY.

I just use what Mark firms recommends as a guideline. There are many traders who just calculate their own A and C values.

I am attaching A and C values sheet which shows recommended OR and values.

acvalue.pdf
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shopster
 

Registered: Jul 2011
Posts: 1479

 

02-02-12 01:38 AM

Zenster long entry / red arrow, update......

no stop on this trade.

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zenster trade entry.gif
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dv4632
 

Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 321

 

02-02-12 05:06 AM

Thanks for the ACD sheet.

And I agree about needing a multiplier for volatility, whichever market you choose. For example the canned 3.5 number for ES has been working well in January, but try it in Aug/Sep 2011 and results will be different.

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Shopster chart...

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smallStops
 

Registered: Oct 2011
Posts: 1049

 

02-02-12 05:52 AM

The chart is ... brutal
There's going to be blood on the dancefloor

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