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sellindexvol66
 

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 609

 

04-06-12 02:57 AM


Quote from pbj:

I participated in this program and earned about $0.50 per month per $100,000 in equities in my account. I also received a payment in lieu of a dividend. I found that this program was not a benefit for me and discontinued my participation.



Lol, i have been in the program for a few months.... Similar results , similar sizes..i still hold out hope nonetheless.

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fbell50
 

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 124

 

04-06-12 05:56 AM

I made .03119% ($31.19 per $100k) in March. It may not seem like much, but I'll take every little bit I can get.

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sf631
 

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 104

 

04-06-12 08:01 AM

Yes, apparently PM accounts are eligible. I have gotten paid small amounts while being a PM account, and the rep that looked into my particulars explained how the 140% rule worked in my case. Definitely wasn't a "none" conclusion, just what I mentioned above

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IB-AN
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Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 79

 

04-09-12 01:48 PM


Quote from sf631:

I don't think that's quite right, but maybe IB-AN can confirm. If you had a $10K account, long 10K and short 10K, your cash balance would say 10K, but when you back out the $10K cash generated from proceeds of the shorts, your cash balance would be 0. They could hypothecate 1.4x of 0, so you'd be OK

If you ran more like 200% and 200% (assuming portfolio margin here), then on a 10K account you'd be -10K in cash after backing out the 20K cash proceeds from the short sales. They could hypothecate 14K of your longs, so you'd still potentially be able to take advantage of it, but the key point is that IB cherry picks the most attractive lending opportunities and you only get anything over and above that.

In my case this means I occasionally see a few pennies here and there, but it's usually exactly a few pennies because some of my longs are HTB some are not

IB-AN, did I get this right?




When you sell stock short, you are effectively borrowing. It's not cash, as is the case when purchasing stock on margin, but shares, and the lender of those shares requires that the transaction be fully collateralized to secure their return at the conclusion of the loan. The loan collateral is in the form of cash, with the cash originating from the proceeds of the short sale. These cash proceeds are therefore not available to support the purchase of other securities and are subtracted from your net cash balance to determine what amount, if any, you are borrowing on your long shares.

For example, assume you have a Reg T account with net liquidating equity of $5,500 comprised of the following: net long cash of $5,500, long stock of $10,000 and short stock of $10,000. Note that you'd need to have equity of at least $5,500 to meet the exchange maintenance margin requirement of 30% of the short stock market value and 25% of the long stock market value. In determining the amount of long stock the broker has a lien on for hypothecation purposes, you would back out the market value of the short stock from your net cash balance. If the result is a credit, then you have not borrowed money to purchase those long shares and they must be segregated. If, it's a debit as it is in this example ($5,500 - $10,000 = $4,500), then the broker has a lien on 140% of that debit balance ($4,500 * 1.4 = $6,300) and has the right to loan or pledge shares up to that amount. The remaining long stock balance ($10,000 - $6,300 = $3,700) is not available for the broker to loan or pledge and must be segregated unless you enter into a special agreement to allow this. IB's Yield Enhancement Program is one such example.

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Options12
 

Registered: Sep 2011
Posts: 550

 

04-10-12 02:04 AM

Does the portfolio margin broker lien exempt fully-paid-for equities from the segregation requirement described in the Reg T example above?

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doublet83
 

Registered: Feb 2011
Posts: 236

 

04-11-12 01:03 PM

I've been signed up for IB's yield enhancement program for a few months now, and I would seem that they never lend out my really expensive to borrow shares, some of which they are charging as much as 80% interest for.

I would assume that they would prefer not to lend out shares where they have to split the interest, making my shares only available as a last resort. So maybe this explains why my shares are never being lent.

However, IB also offers an "AQS marketplace," where apparently you can manually lend our your shares at an interest rate you manually set (and I think you keep the entire borrow cost). Wondering if anyone's given this thing a shot and how it works.

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