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sellindexvol66
 

Registered: Apr 2008
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03-14-12 12:03 AM


Quote from rallymode:

Record contango on the VIX curve. 10 handles between 90 day futures and spot.



I'm fading it.

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njrookie1
 

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 240

 

03-14-12 02:10 AM

I think the ETP hedging might help to steepen the curve.

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atticus
 

Registered: Mar 2007
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03-14-12 02:13 AM


Quote from sellindexvol66:

I'm fading it.



Noooo! Could you possibly be LONG the switch? Hell haseth frozen over! lol, your headstone will read, "He went out long the switch". Have you ever shorted it to open a position, EVAR?!

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No Option
 

Registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 20

 

03-14-12 03:26 AM


Quote from rallymode:

Record contango on the VIX curve. 10 handles between 90 day futures and spot.



Yepper - even if you pull out MAR this is still one steep curve...

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sellindexvol66
 

Registered: Apr 2008
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03-14-12 01:39 PM


Quote from atticus:

Noooo! Could you possibly be LONG the switch? Hell haseth frozen over! lol, your headstone will read, "He went out long the switch". Have you ever shorted it to open a position, EVAR?!



let's just say i'm sticking to past history. rally is right as this opportunity has not presented itself since long vol in backwardation summer 2011 and contango 2010 gave their respective edges.

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trefoil
 

Registered: Mar 2007
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03-14-12 09:36 PM

OK I was just - and still am - fooling around with VIX options call spreads, mostly shorting em cause of the crazed premium of April, especially, over spot right now. Fell in a few weeks ago to "short" the market, noticed the wild premium, and have stuck around to do this instead.
I've gone through the history and I think this is probably as far above spot as the futures have been on a closing basis with expiry coming up in the range of the mid 30s in terms of days.
Sooo.... since you guys seem to know what you're doing here with VIX, am I being crazed or do you think we're in for some interesting reversion to some reasonable mean? I don't want to put on a significant position until I can at least delude myself into thinking I know what I'm doing. (22.10 on April? With spot at 15.31? Like, WTF? At this point, this is the definition of temptation.)

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