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newwurldmn
 

Registered: Apr 2011
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01-14-12 12:40 AM


Quote from galvinlee888:

Market reverse from deep red before close. This is really fantastic consider the bad news outside - Europe downgrade, Greek in the blink of collapse and etc.

The "buyers" (Fund Mgr with IQ=80?) really come in and buy the dip ?

Sit tight and prepare for the crazy rally next week.



Maybe their IQ's aren't 80 then.

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bwolinsky
 

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 4559

 

01-14-12 02:03 AM


Quote from newwurldmn:

often it's not to make profits through speculation or investment.



All right, this sounds idiotic. There is no other reason to trade. Are you saying talking heads don't have that motive?

Fund managers generally do not have IQ's of 80, but more than 120+ or if you prefer standard deviations at least two positive deviations away for the mean for the average accountant and a fund manager is substantially similar.

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macroman
 

Registered: Sep 2010
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01-14-12 02:04 AM


Quote from bwolinsky:

All right, this sounds idiotic. There is no other reason to trade.

Fund managers generally do not have IQ's of 80, but more than 120+ or if you prefer standard deviations at least two positive deviations away for the mean for the average accountant and a fund manager is substantially similar.



you live in fantasy world, mister.

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bwolinsky
 

Registered: Jul 2008
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01-14-12 02:08 AM


Quote from macroman:

you live in fantasy world, mister.



You can read Hernstein's and Murray's book The Bell Curve to learn about the stratification of our society according to bell curves and percentiles.

Then you can write a 20 page paper called IQ and Income using SAS and confirm the linear regressions yourself. Intelligence as measured by ASVAB percentiles are the most significant predictor of annual income.

There is no fund manager that stupid, and just because you have a different opinion doesn't mean their IQ's are that low. Most fund managers prefer low turnover to high because it may be their mandate and whenever they get inflows to their fund they figure that they must have read all of their prospectuses and, thus, are ready to let them "manage money" even if that means buying at inopportune times.

In The Bell Curve Lawyers and Accountants typically had statistics from no less than 2 standard deviations up.

How intelligent would you have to be to be a single black mother with three kids and what effect would that have on your annual income? The statistics are controversial but what IQ 80 would imply is someone who is slightly better than competent enough to write their own name and do basic math. There is no retarded investment professional managing a fund, and that much I can guarantee.

In all seriousness, I know the op is just trying to rationalize.

I'm not stupid, and I say short this market, but I do it with stops, and quantitative mathematics not relevant to any buyers popping money in the market at the beginning of the year and beginning of the month just so you don't have to worry about the hassel of handling a dollar cost averaging approach after getting paid bonuses and that's the only reason we're up these past two weeks.

The commentators are saying we are "decoupling", when that isn't possible. It's just we got so many incompetent investment professionals wanting to get paid their fees and their clients just gave them more money than usual and that will be reflected in net domestic inflows to mutual funds next month, but it is really just that there is greedy buying in the market and while it is impossible to decouple, the fact that Eurosis hasn't dropped our market more is more a reflection of that time of the year than it is as a sign of a bull market starting.

Lower high.

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jj90
 

Registered: Nov 2005
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01-14-12 02:52 AM


Quote from bwolinsky:

The commentators are saying we are "decoupling", when that isn't possible. ......Eurosis hasn't dropped our market more is more a reflection of that time of the year than it is as a sign of a bull market starting.

Lower high.



I ignore a lot of your shit, but I actually do want to hear why you think we are not gonna decouple.

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macroman
 

Registered: Sep 2010
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01-14-12 03:15 AM

whatever, most fund managers diffrentiate by having larger mortgages than anyone else as i think they think they are better and deserve better I say, good for them.

In my longterm system, I managed to average in near 100% and would like now markets to go up

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