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Tax rate on the wealthy (say earners of > 1M a year)
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0 - 10% 20 20.20%
11% - 20% 14 14.14%
21% - 30% 17 17.17%
31% - 40% 10 10.10%
41% - 50% 11 11.11%
51% - 60% 3 3.03%
61% - 70% 17 17.17%
I don't know 2 2.02%
I don't care 5 5.05%
Total: 99 votes 100%
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lighnintrade
 

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 43

 

12-03-11 03:10 AM


Quote from logic_man:

And yet, despite these "monkeys" running major US corporations, you are not running one. Clearly your superior intelligence should have brought you to the top of a corporate hierarchy by now, no? Oh, wait, right, you don't WANT to run a major corporation and get paid far more than you are worth cuz you don't want to sell out to the man, right?

See, the thing is, you aren't as intelligent as you think you are. Nor will you ever be.

Funny thing is, I actually have participated in strategy-setting sessions for major (think Dow Jones Industrial Average components) corporations and I've thought to myself that maybe the "rank and file" should get to participate so that they could see that the execs are really doing their best and the fact is that developing strategy is actually hard stuff. Then I read comments like yours and realize that the "rank and file" are idiots and having them participate would just be a waste of time.

Despite the fact that the "99%" think they are getting cheated, the fact is that they are making out like bandits relative to their actual worth. You want to talk about "luck"? How about the luck that morons like you have in having been born in an era when there is no slavery, since you would CLEARLY have been slaves in an earlier era?



You're a fool, please get some level of education. At least complete your high school diploma. I'm not sure it would help someone with your limited mental capacity, but it's better than nothing. Your thinking is at such a low level that i'm not sure if you're just an ape who was taught to type. Someone born into poverty in this era could just as well have been born an emporer in another. Would you rather be as dumb as you currently are and rich, or actually have some real intelligence and poor? I already know which choice you would make. You fail to consider that if you had intelligence, even half as much as i have, money would come all too easy. I'm not sure why i'm wasting my time arguing with a talentless fool.

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
Posts: 1489

 

12-03-11 03:42 AM


Quote from lighnintrade:

You fail to consider that if you had intelligence, even half as much as i have, money would come all too easy.



I've got plenty of money. I wouldn't say it came easy, but it came.

I'm still trying to figure out what objective measure of intelligence makes you think that you're so smart. You don't seem to realize that you can't just say you're intelligent, other people have to say you're intelligent for it to matter. Better yet, pay you for being intelligent. And if you were actually being paid for your intelligence, you'd also think it was BS that the government was taking that payment and redistributing it to others who didn't work for it. I make more in a week than the average person on the planet makes in a year. Do you?

So, the bottom line is, you're either a useless parasite or an idiot.

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shortie
 

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 6711

 

12-03-11 05:06 AM

I am for fair tax.


Flat % income tax is fair if the rich and the poor have equal access to resources, ability to influence legislation, etc. We all know that in US there is NO equal access. So the flat tax is not necessarily the fairest option.

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oldtime
 

Registered: Jun 2011
Posts: 7479

 

12-03-11 05:48 AM


Quote from logic_man:

The problem with this approach is that you ignore the whole "division of labor" which has only been the driver of all human progress from the time we were monkeys to today, making it kind of important.

If the smarter guy spends time making his own burger when the burger flipper could be doing it, then what is the burger flipper going to do? Suck the smarter guy's cock for money? And that time the smarter guy spends making his own burger is time he doesn't spend doing whatever higher-value activities he'd otherwise be doing.

The combination of self-righteousness and lack of logic in posts like yours is truly depressing, especially since I know there are people who really believe that crap.

excuse me, apparently you mistook me for someone who gives a shit about how smart guys spend their time.

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plyka
 

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 181

 

12-03-11 06:52 AM

What people need to start realizing is that the government is NOT on your side. At the very least i would get the sentiment to tax the rich people a lot, from the middle class's perspective, if they then got that money. Unfortunately for them, that's not what happens, lol. Get this one straight:

THE GOVERNMENT AND THE ELITE ARE ONE, THEY ARE ON THE SAME SIDE SINCE THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE!!!

Now a difference must be made between the rich who have become rich due to their creating a company and earning the money in a free market by providing the best services/goods to the consumer.

vs

People who got rich with the help of government, either through the FED, direct subsidy/contracts/bailouts or government regulations which protect them from competitors.

The government and the elite are the same people, they tax the middle class and re-allocate the wealth to the elite. Either through regulations or through government handouts.

THIS IS HOW IT WORKS! WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

If you want the American people to be best of you need a FAIR system, and the only FAIR system is free market capitalism. This doesn't mean that fraud, stealing, etc, is legal. There is a government in a laissez-faire capitalist society. The government's responsibility is not to regulate or spend money or manage the economy, but rather to enforce contracts, protect people from the force/fraud of others, etc. Laissez-faire capitalism, pure free markets, is the fairest form of society, it rewards those who earn it and produce it, and everyone becomes far more prosperous than they otherwise would be.

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MKTrader
 

Registered: Dec 2005
Posts: 2216

 

12-03-11 07:10 AM


Quote from Free Thinker:

if i have you on ignore its because you are profane,immature,cant make an argument, just attack the messenger,are stupid or are just a plain asshole. there has to be a minimum level of mental capacity before i waste my time but the bar is very low.
i never put people on ignore just because they disagree with me. i love a good debate.



All things that you do, freeloader. And I've seen 3rd graders with better grammatical skills. In reality, you simply ignore those who expose your fallacious arguments.

Still waiting to hear your definition of morality and how you sit in the almighty judgement seat, determining which taxes are "moral" or not.

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