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clacy
 

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 2411

 

10-29-11 01:09 AM


Quote from Random.Capital:

That is simply not true, and another example of voters (namely, you) evading their own responsibilities. There have been many candidates for office willing to tell the voters the blunt truth and what needs to be done. Many have even been well-funded.

Unfortunately, voters have consistently rejected them.

To be perfectly blunt, attitudes such as yours are a prime reason this great democratic experiment is mired in economic morass.

You aren't the solution, you are the problem.



This is exactly right. Voters always claim they "hate congress", but they continually love THEIR congressman and show it by re-electing them at a very high rate.

They claim they hate career politicians, yet elect career politicos 98% of the time.

They claim they want straight talk, but ALWAYS punish the candidates that deliver the hard truth.

The bottom line is that we get what we deserve in the country, 100% of the time.

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PocketChange
 

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 2037

 

10-29-11 01:21 AM

My point is our standard of living will average to the levels of our trading partners. The water analogy... everything will find its level.




Quote from oldtime:

and you beleive our standard of living should be perpetually higher than the rest of the world based on what? Do we have more resources that the rest of the world? If so, that would make sense.

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Eight
 

Registered: Mar 2009
Posts: 3462

 

10-29-11 01:24 AM


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Not all that different from the former Soviet Union before its collapse... few in America can see it, however.




I was talking to a Tea Party gal today and she said something that sort of gave me food for thought. She said "we don't have Socialism, we have Communism"..

I'm not sure what we have exactly.. We have the ACLU types remaking the culture from the inside out via the legal system and via legal extortion/thuggery, we have the Democrat Party requiring large donations from people that want jobs in the Public Sector, we have a level of political debate that resembles a street brawl, we have two parties both of which are busy taking away our constitutional rights, we have the Federal Reserve printing our money, we have an income tax that was struck down by the Supreme Court but reinstated by a LOWER court, we have the best politicians that money can buy and many of them are flagrantly getting away with things that the press just doesn't investigate... we have an educational system that enforces paganism... I really don't know what we have..

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denner
 

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 3325

 

10-29-11 02:59 AM


Quote from clacy:

This is exactly right. Voters always claim they "hate congress", but they continually love THEIR congressman and show it by re-electing them at a very high rate.

They claim they hate career politicians, yet elect career politicos 98% of the time.

They claim they want straight talk, but ALWAYS punish the candidates that deliver the hard truth.

The bottom line is that we get what we deserve in the country, 100% of the time.



It's called controlled opposition. A two party system gives the voters literally no options. If the system were reformed in any meaningful way and alternative parties were to emerge, I think that we'd see a vastly different political landscape.

Currently, it's near impossible for an outside party to raise the sort of funding needed to take on the embedded politico's who have guaranteed special interest funding.

What we have is the "best system that money can buy".

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denner
 

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 3325

 

10-29-11 03:02 AM


Quote from Eight:

I was talking to a Tea Party gal today and she said something that sort of gave me food for thought. She said "we don't have Socialism, we have Communism"..

I'm not sure what we have exactly.. We have the ACLU types remaking the culture from the inside out via the legal system and via legal extortion/thuggery, we have the Democrat Party requiring large donations from people that want jobs in the Public Sector, we have a level of political debate that resembles a street brawl, we have two parties both of which are busy taking away our constitutional rights, we have the Federal Reserve printing our money, we have an income tax that was struck down by the Supreme Court but reinstated by a LOWER court, we have the best politicians that money can buy and many of them are flagrantly getting away with things that the press just doesn't investigate... we have an educational system that enforces paganism... I really don't know what we have..



I missed this post, but we are on the same wavelength. I get tired of this crap about the "people" being responsible for the current batch of crooked politico's. It turns into an argument about the collective versus the individual. Yes, 90% of the populus vote in their self-interest, but it ignores the fact that there is a segment of the population that sees thru the bullshit and would like to change the political landscape.

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stock777
 

Registered: Jul 2001
Posts: 15450

 

10-29-11 03:03 AM

been talking about the food stamp scam for years.

how many fs scammers have fancy cars, houses, jewelry, cash in the mattress?

lots I suspect.

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