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sheepsucker
 

Registered: Jun 2009
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08-01-11 05:04 PM

Hi,

I designed some systems for NT that do good on Kinetick's data on 15min charts. When I run them on IB's data they fail completely.

IB only provide data for the last 365 days.
So, it seems quite hard to design an FX strategy for IB that could be backtested on more than 365 days? Which makes it impossible to trade FX automated on IB.

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sheepsucker
 

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 213

 

08-02-11 07:34 AM

Or is there something I am missing? Or just have to rely on larger timeframes where the data is more similar from different sources?

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Joman
 

Registered: Jun 2010
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08-02-11 08:06 AM

You should be able to compare your entry and exit points between IB and Kinetick for the last year.

I guess you have taken into account commissions and slippage, so:

- are the trades really different ?

- do you backtest renko bars, 3 line break and so on ? very difficult to backtest.

- do you use future information in your backtest that wouldn't be available in real time (data-snooping bias) ? Be careful with indicators like zig-zag.

- do you use very tight stops and targets so that they all happen within the same bar ?

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sheepsucker
 

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 213

 

08-02-11 10:02 AM


Quote from Joman:

You should be able to compare your entry and exit points between IB and Kinetick for the last year.

I guess you have taken into account commissions and slippage, so:

- are the trades really different ?

- do you backtest renko bars, 3 line break and so on ? very difficult to backtest.

- do you use future information in your backtest that wouldn't be available in real time (data-snooping bias) ? Be careful with indicators like zig-zag.

- do you use very tight stops and targets so that they all happen within the same bar ?



Thanks for your answer.

- are the trades really different ?
-Yes

- do you backtest renko bars, 3 line break and so on ? very difficult to backtest.
-No but comparing ranges and open and close on bars on pairs like EURSEK.

- do you use future information in your backtest that wouldn't be available in real time (data-snooping bias) ? Be careful with indicators like zig-zag.
-not using indicators

- do you use very tight stops and targets so that they all happen within the same bar ?
-For this I paid my dues earlier

It seems the data and consecutively backtesting results are possibly more similar on more common pairs though.

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LeeD
 

Registered: Feb 2008
Posts: 1765

 

08-02-11 10:16 AM

See if you could generate signals using kenetick data and simulate execution using IB data... If the results are still wildly different, try comparing 15-minute bars on the last year's data... Are open, close, high and low different on most bars?

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sheepsucker
 

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 213

 

08-04-11 09:33 AM

Thanks for the advice!

I did not succeed to generate signals on kinetick and execute on IB because the quotes are so different. The data on eg. EURSEK is on a 15m chart visibly different between Kinetick and IB.

However I made the systems less dependent on individual bars and more on more general calculations and the results started to be more similar.

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