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falconview
 

Registered: Jun 2010
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04-27-12 01:12 PM

I have no idea the problem with elite trader? But I try to comment on another forum I follow and every time I post it kicks me back to LOGIN again. Anybody have a clue? Is it because my thingy is only working on this forum, but thus will not allow me to work on another one?

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MushinSeeker
 

Registered: Jun 2006
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04-27-12 08:03 PM

Riffraff,

I think timestops are very critical in this trading scenario. If you think stock is at a critical point and it does not happen in x minutes or hours. Would u agree that u gotta get out instead of waiting for end of day?

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Dolemite
 

Registered: Jan 2003
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04-27-12 11:14 PM


Quote from optionbull:

Can u elaborate on. Provided short option makes a difference. Thnak you



Just saying to be careful if you are buying an OTM debit spread and the short is only worth .10-.25 for example. You are capping your gains instead of just owning the outright long option.

On a separate note, I see so many traders keep a credit spread on way too long trying to wait for that last 10-20 cents decay. A short option that is 1.00 will drop to .50 a lot faster than a .10 short option will drop to .05

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Riffraffpatrol
 

Registered: Feb 2011
Posts: 236

 

04-28-12 01:58 AM


Quote from MushinSeeker:

Riffraff,

I think timestops are very critical in this trading scenario. If you think stock is at a critical point and it does not happen in x minutes or hours. Would u agree that u gotta get out instead of waiting for end of day?



Mush-- timestops are huuuuuge... u MUST have a designated time rule that NEVER gets breached...the acceleration at end of day will destroy an account... especially if you are trading a strangle and are still OTM on both sides. With a straddle there is some more flexibility on the length of the time stop due to the fact that the majority of time you are ITM on one side.

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MushinSeeker
 

Registered: Jun 2006
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04-28-12 02:29 AM

In my testing I've found out that trades w bad alphas get stale really fast while stocks that have good IV's which result in higher aplhas has a little bit more shelf life. Case in point Nov 11 2011 weekly - AAPL and MA had really bad alphas, both of them sat for about 2 hours, huge pnl down on straddle. Contrast w another stock with an alpha of 1 has a little bit more staying power before it starts to head south/Buy trader an extra 1 hour to wait for move.

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optionbull
 

Registered: Apr 2012
Posts: 245

 

04-28-12 02:52 PM


Quote from Riffraffpatrol:

If you're system has you with firm conviction in a particular direction, there is no reason whatsoever to do a straddle. If volatility is low-- buy calls. When IV is high-- sell puts. Based on a 2-3 day timeframe and want some wiggle room-- look to a new weekly series (every Thurs)... If u feel strongly thr move is imminent at present-- do the front weekly. I
Prefer deep ITM-- but if your willing to take the risk and u get your move-- the returns can be phenomenal on ATM/OTM.



Hi,

Thanks, agree with straddle, that doesnt make any sense.

so yes it would be imminent

so when you refer to weekly, what does this mean ? never heard this term in option ?

I prefer a little risk, so I think I would buy ATM sell OTM verticle for example.... if bullish, but not sure how weekly terminology plays into this ? I would just look at opion chain related to the commodity 9 I would be looking at gold or oil in many cases, not equities)

thanks agin

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