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euclid
 

Registered: Jul 2007
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04-06-12 01:04 PM


Quote from oilfxpro:

The day traders find themselves trading from 1 and 5 min charts ,charts which are deceiving , noise and random.




Quote from oilfxpro:

On the 1 minute charts the view is much clearer than other time frames.



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trade4ever2day
 

Registered: Nov 2007
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04-06-12 01:50 PM

Daytrading for most is a recreational activity with a remote possibility of making some money. For some it is an addiction. For very few it is a profitable activity.

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RCG Trader
 

Registered: Dec 2009
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04-06-12 02:52 PM


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There are fundamental reasons why trend trading is more profitable.



The spread eats into your profits , trend traders trade with the support of the market and run their profits whilst cutting their losses , day traders and scalpers cut their profits short and are seeing their profits eaten by the spreads.A day trader might make 10 to 30 trades a day and pay loads of spread , a trend trader might trade only several times a week.


The day traders find themselves trading from 1 and 5 min charts ,charts which are deceiving , noise and random.Just a few reasons why day trading is difficult to make money from.



The problem is no one knows when a trend starts, or when it ends.

If you have enuf screen time you will almost always see some trend trade that is clear as day in the debriefing but you did not take when it was forming on the hard right edge. Chart analysis has it merits, but really, it is like a cornerback who watches tape of how a receiver beat him.

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oilfxpro
 

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04-06-12 03:27 PM


Quote from euclid:





If you trade on the minute but synchronize with the higher time frame , there are less false signals and noise.

Here is an example how noisy 5 minutes can be , whereas the 15 minutes is smoother in trends.

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Riffraffpatrol
 

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04-06-12 03:31 PM

The right combination of multiple time frame analysis, pattern recognition skills at the hard right edge (not what has formed, but what is forming), along with a true understanding of where true supply and demand is on the charts, and ultimately executing a trade based on more precise shorter time frame entry signals with proper position size and risk management/stop loss techniques is the key to success.

The majority who try to day trade will only incorporate a fraction if any of the above, and hence fail.

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Riffraffpatrol
 

Registered: Feb 2011
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04-06-12 03:36 PM


Quote from oilfxpro:

If you trade on the minute but synchronize with the higher time frame , there are less false signals and noise.

Here is an example how noisy 5 minutes can be , whereas the 15 minutes is smoother in trends.



Olixpro-- try overlaying bollinger bands on top of the 5 min chart (using a 20 EMA in lieu of SMA)... it will make A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE in your analysis, and IMHO ultimately trading success.

I refuse to trade w/o bbs on a chart.

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