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oilfxpro
 

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04-18-11 02:49 AM


Quote from wrbtrader:

What's preventing you from using the information from the book now.

Mark



I just thought I would try some day trading and develop some strategies for day trading , and also develop some mechanical automated strategies.It has taken me off track.

If you look at this chart , the things he mentions still work in today's currency markets.

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oilfxpro
 

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04-18-11 02:51 AM


Quote from oilfxpro:

I just thought I would try some day trading and develop some strategies for day trading , and also develop some mechanical automated strategies.It has taken me off track.

If you look at this chart , the things he mentions still work in today's currency markets.



Here is the chart

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oilfxpro
 

Registered: Oct 2007
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04-18-11 03:18 AM

I am grateful for all the responses.Thank you.

Books are mainly written by people who do not trade and have never been successful at trading.It is often difficult to believe and follow everything you read , until it is proven and verified in the trader's mind.

My only grudge against authors of t/a books and snake oil salesman , is why didn't they help prepare for trend failures and fakes.What if a book title said " 50 % of trends fail , prepare yourself for trend failures and all trends fail eventually".
An author says 50 % of trends fail , would you bother buying his book on t/a.Why not just toss a coin for 50/50? 50 % of what t/a authors write is rubbish and does not always work .It may work sometimes , but you can put your cash on it, the author would rather take your money in books.

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bstay
 

Registered: Mar 2006
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04-18-11 04:47 AM


Quote from oilfxpro:
I am grateful for all the responses.Thank you.
Books are mainly written by people who do not trade and have never been successful at trading.It is often difficult to believe and follow everything you read , until it is proven and verified in the trader's mind.
My only grudge against authors of t/a books and snake oil salesman , is why didn't they help prepare for trend failures and fakes.What if a book title said " 50 % of trends fail , prepare yourself for trend failures and all trends fail eventually".
An author says 50 % of trends fail , would you bother buying his book on t/a.Why not just toss a coin for 50/50? 50 % of what t/a authors write is rubbish and does not always work .It may work sometimes , but you can put your cash on it, the author would rather take your money in books.


if you no longer believe in trend-following strategies, or books written about trend-following, why not experiment with reversal or counter-trend trading? ignore everything said about "trend" or "continuation pattern" or "moving averages" since you now believed that >50% of trends fail and it's better to toss coin for 50/50.

reversal trades look for extreme movement in one direction, exhaustion, and entry upon specific candlestick patterns like pin bar, dragonfly doji, hammer, railroad tracks, morning/evening star doji, engulfing bar, etc. not to support any of these candlestick junk but just for examples. so in reversal trading you look for entries on a U-turn signature, and target the retracement to a neutral area, or reversion to mean. besides individual candlestick pattern you also have reversal structures like double-top/bottom, head-and-shoulders, v-tops/bottoms, with MACD divergence or RSI divergence, and "location" qualifiers such as confluence of daily/weekly pivots or major fibonacci retracement, or prior major/minor support/resistance lines (horizontal price, not diagonal trendlines) to add probabilities to the reversal zone.

in other words, if trend-following methods as you've determined will fail 50% of the time, do you also think that reversal trading is also 50% at best? one well-marketed snakeoil salesman suggested the "60:30:10 Rule" that exists across all markets and all time-frames,
Trend 30%
Breakout 10%
Counter-Trend 60%
so maybe reversal trades might come easier for you trading the 1mins chart.

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ammo
 

Registered: Feb 2007
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04-18-11 04:53 AM

one good thing about reversals,if you buy/sell at a s/r line,you know right away,in trend following,if you get in the middle of a trend,it can pull back and shake you out before continuing

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oilfxpro
 

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 1600

 

04-18-11 06:27 AM


Quote from ammo:

one good thing about reversals,if you buy/sell at a s/r line,you know right away,in trend following,if you get in the middle of a trend,it can pull back and shake you out before continuing



Confirmed reversals at trend lines with bullish/bearish reversals with price momentum of 1/3 daily range are higher probability trades.

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