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austinp
 

Registered: Apr 2006
Posts: 3079

 

04-03-12 11:47 AM


Quote from RobertG:

I appreciate your opinion and feedback. My post had one intention and it is to stop the mob mentality staring a guillotine cheering to see another head chopped. This is what this thread has turned into.

A few years ago I attended a seminar in Chicago by a well to do trader, and I thought it would be interesting to take the education and talk to other traders. What a reality check that was! 85% of the attendees had the dumbest look on their face, most never traded, a few went bankrupt before and look for a way to recover. There were 30-40 people and I could have shared an intelligent conversation only with 1-2 guys.

I will never forget how all those people who never traded in their life running around with laptops sharing with other newbies their observation of patterns, indicators, etc. They all had an email with the word "Trader" and had an icon of every single platform out there(?)

It was the blind leading the blind.

This put me in perspective of what trading means to most: a pipe of dreams. All these unrealistic expectations will turn into frustrations, anger and sooner than later they will be on ET hating, cursing and misleading others. There are so many intelligent people on ET, and I enjoy reading their posts, but in between I need to encounter all the idiotic cursing, sarcasm, and this vendor thread.



I was one of the early candidates listed in this infantile thread, and didn't mind the exposure one bit. It's an absolute fact that the silent majority of readers here are normal, mentally stable, intelligent people who can rationally think for themselves.

They see a bunch of posts here and consider the course. OP of this nonsense thread has compiled 3,600 posts in less than two years, most of which proclaim the readers of this site will lose money with no possible chance to succeed.

Then they look back into his post history and see where the proclaimed +1pt ES profit trades that actually happen about once a month are celebrated like his very first high-school kiss.

So when compared to that standard of measure for street cred as a trader, I cordially asked to have my info posted in bold navy blue so it'd stand out starkly. If some village idiot wants to throw around free advertising, why fight it?

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This site used to be full of veteran successful traders posting regularly. You could actually have an intelligent conversation with others, amidst the usual heavy flaming. Now look around and see what thread topics exist. Five guys won the lottery or came into millions and their first inclination is to post here? The silent majority here is waaaaaaaay more intelligent than the verbal minority who post 5+ times per day on average.

Lastly, the persistent myth that everything known to man about trading is available in public is exactly that: a message board myth. Maybe 75% (at most) exists in public, scattered to the four points of compass. Anyone can spend three - five years combing thru the rubble to find puzzle pieces and figure out how it all fits together.

Three to five years, minimum just to reach the starting line. Maybe that's not so very long to wait for most people trying to learn this profession.

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04-03-12 02:30 PM


Quote from Sydtrader:

Just a shame I'm so far away as I'd like to give the professor a real piece of my mind. Good luck to all the traders who've also been 'bogged' down by live trade rooms and ridiculous courses.



Just to set the record straight, this was NOT me. Some other 'professor'.

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docholiday
 

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 12

 

04-07-12 12:38 PM

About Mark Cook,, I have spent my money and went in person to Mark Cook's, Ohio farm for the class,, TOTAL B.S. Put him on the top of the list!!, I'm sure he is or was an awesome trader, but you will never learn what he knows for $3500.00 in 5 days, total whore, Not to mention, a philanderer with every chick in class, total waste of money.

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HurricaneUS
 

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 755

 

04-07-12 12:59 PM


Quote from docholiday:

About Mark Cook,, I have spent my money and went in person to Mark Cook's, Ohio farm for the class,, TOTAL B.S. Put him on the top of the list!!, I'm sure he is or was an awesome trader, but you will never learn what he knows for $3500.00 in 5 days, total whore, Not to mention, a philanderer with every chick in class, total waste of money.



How good is Mark Cooks advisory service?

It seems that if his advisory signals are good than maybe he doesn't belong on the list.....

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docholiday
 

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 12

 

04-08-12 03:17 AM

I can tell you this about Cook's advisory,, we had a class of 12 people, about 2 days into it,, I started talking to a few in the class about the typical BS crap he was selling, including his advisory service, After the class, his personal assistant quit him, and confided to another member of the class, that my suspicions were right..He is as big a whore as it gets, and his justification was , that if "I don;t take their money, someone else will",, Most of we twelve kept in touch, I did not subscribe to his service, but a gent that sat next me did,, I think he was down about $100,000.00 before he stopped, it,, Not my idea of a good time,, you can do better than that flipping a coin, Eventually the word got out, I know many in our class badmouthed him,, and to this day, I know many of the conferences won;t touch him,, that's why he's been taking his game to places like Australia....I read about him in Active Trader magazine, and I blame these rotten rags the most, gave him a great write up, so I said what the hell, I can tell you this,, You may as well take the $3500.00 and burn it,, and on top of that, a couple of the women in the class were telling me, he was calling them after hours and hittin on them,, great image for a married guy,, Ask Linda Bradford Raschke, All I gotta say is Good Luck,, doc

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RobertG
 

Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 119

 

04-08-12 04:20 AM


Quote from docholiday:

I can tell you this about Cook's advisory,, we had a class of 12 people, about 2 days into it,, I started talking to a few in the class about the typical BS crap he was selling, including his advisory service, After the class, his personal assistant quit him, and confided to another member of the class, that my suspicions were right..He is as big a whore as it gets, and his justification was , that if "I don;t take their money, someone else will",, Most of we twelve kept in touch, I did not subscribe to his service, but a gent that sat next me did,, I think he was down about $100,000.00 before he stopped, it,, Not my idea of a good time,, you can do better than that flipping a coin, Eventually the word got out, I know many in our class badmouthed him,, and to this day, I know many of the conferences won;t touch him,, that's why he's been taking his game to places like Australia....I read about him in Active Trader magazine, and I blame these rotten rags the most, gave him a great write up, so I said what the hell, I can tell you this,, You may as well take the $3500.00 and burn it,, and on top of that, a couple of the women in the class were telling me, he was calling them after hours and hittin on them,, great image for a married guy,, Ask Linda Bradford Raschke, All I gotta say is Good Luck,, doc




What's with you guys? You think a weekend on a farm house will change your life?

He can be a womanizer or make love to the cows on his farm, who cares? in the good old days best traders in the pit spent their money "partying" and if there is an old pit trader here he can tell you stories.

Take a pencil, sharpen it, and every time you lose while trading, stab your left hand.
Beats all mentors. I will take only $1750 for this advice.

RG

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