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easyguru
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Registered: Feb 2002
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08-13-03 02:13 PM


Quote from Gladiator4444:

Hi everyone, I am a new member on this site...and i find it to be very helpful.....

I've been daytrading for a few months now...and I find it very difficult to keep my losing days small compare to my winning days...I think I am having problem knowing when to stop and when to push more....at this point I don't know how to solve this problem......ANY HELPFUL ADVISE WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED

thanx,

Gladiator



Don't trade everyday. you need to have an overall market filter which increases probability of trend days.
You may want to avoid index stocks where the futures and arbitrage players can lead to volatile moves.

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WDGann
 

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 2011

 

08-13-03 02:28 PM

Money Management without edge is worthless.

Using Money Management as an excuse for lack of skill is stupid.

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iraj
 

Registered: Jul 2003
Posts: 17

 

08-13-03 02:52 PM


Quote from WDGann:

Money Management without edge is worthless.

Using Money Management as an excuse for lack of skill is stupid.



you edge is a system which does not cut ur winners soon...

iraj

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Yannis
 

Registered: Jan 2002
Posts: 5286

 

08-13-03 02:53 PM


Quote from WDGann:

Money Management without edge is worthless.

Using Money Management as an excuse for lack of skill is stupid.


It depends on what you call money mamanegement and edge - many traders use edge to mean entries but for me, mm is part of my edge.

On the other hand, the word skill is very important here - in many ways trading is a skill sport, like golf or racquetball.

Now, I wish someone had told me the following, a few years ago (but, who was listening?)

1. Study the best books (e.g., Alex Elder's Trading For a Living, etc) and take the best trading courses until you have a detailed plan on what exactly you are going to do, when, why, how, etc;
2. Use a simulator until you have 10-15 consecutive positive days;
3. Start trading for real with 100 share lots of medium/low priced stocks - grow from there on the basis of either a fixed fraction or a fixed ratio mm method;
4. Watch what you stand to lose twice as hard as what you stand to gain - managing your risk and respecting your stoploss triggers is key;
5. At all times, minimize your fixed and variable costs while insisting on high quality tools and execution (e.g., go with TS and/or IB, etc).

Hope this helps

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Mr Subliminal
 

Registered: Apr 2002
Posts: 1006

 

08-13-03 07:30 PM


Quote from iraj:
Of course it is .. I can't post all the possible outcomes...

My apologies - when I see expressions like "coin flip" or "50/50", I automatically think zero-expectancy. What you are referring to is a 50% chance of making £2X, and a 50% chance of losing £X, per trade. Now that's some coin flip

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damir00
 

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 3276

 

08-13-03 07:32 PM

money management IS the edge.

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