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increasenow

Registered: Feb 2007
Posts: 5079

03-21-10 06:30 PM

TF (mini Russell 2000) now more volume than YM (mini Dow)...thought this was interesting to note. The TF actually now has a greater daily volume than the YM.

Why can't the YM seem to really grow more than even the TF? Especially with the TF being brand new on the ICE.

I guess the ER2 volume from CME followed the TF over to ICE?

Current emini index volume leaders:

1-ES
2-NQ
3-TF--WOW!
4-YM
5-mini SP-midcap

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PocketChange

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 2037

03-23-10 02:38 AM

What about FTSE DAX, Kospi and 6E, 6B if you break from indices,
6B has some nice action on par with the $5 dow.

Quote from increasenow:

TF (mini Russell 2000) now more volume than YM (mini Dow)...thought this was interesting to note. The TF actually now has a greater daily volume than the YM.

Why can't the YM seem to really grow more than even the TF? Especially with the TF being brand new on the ICE.

I guess the ER2 volume from CME followed the TF over to ICE?

Current emini index volume leaders:

1-ES
2-NQ
3-TF--WOW!
4-YM
5-mini SP-midcap

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kxvid

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 933

03-23-10 03:35 AM

I used to be a big YM fan but that was when volatility was alot higher. IMO the YM needs an overhaul. Lower margins that is more on par with the volatility situation and with other contracts. IMO the tick value should also be upped to $10. I know there is already a $10 dow but its illiquid.

A TF contract gives about twice the leverage as a YM contract, and despite this has lower margins. So now the Russell 2k has more daily volume than the Dow Mini that would actually equate to more than twice the liquidity.

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increasenow

Registered: Feb 2007
Posts: 5079

03-23-10 03:37 AM

Quote from kxvid:

I used to be a big YM fan but that was when volatility was alot higher. IMO the YM needs an overhaul. Lower margins that is more on par with the volatility situation and with other contracts. IMO the tick value should also be upped to $10. I know there is already a $10 dow but its illiquid.

A TF contract gives about twice the leverage as a YM contract, and despite this has lower margins. So now the Russell 2k has more daily volume than the Dow Mini that would actually equate to more than twice the liquidity.

do you trade the TF?most or all of the time?

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southall

Registered: Mar 2010
Posts: 388

03-23-10 03:37 AM

Quote from increasenow:

TF (mini Russell 2000) now more volume than YM (mini Dow)...thought this was interesting to note. The TF actually now has a greater daily volume than the YM.

Why can't the YM seem to really grow more than even the TF? Especially with the TF being brand new on the ICE.

I guess the ER2 volume from CME followed the TF over to ICE?

Current emini index volume leaders:

1-ES
2-NQ
3-TF--WOW!
4-YM
5-mini SP-midcap

The ER2 had higher volume than YM when it was on the CME.. alot higher than it does now.

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kxvid

Registered: Jul 2008
Posts: 933

03-23-10 03:51 AM

Quote from increasenow:

do you trade the TF?most or all of the time?

Both. I don't think the YM is worth it anymore. I'm transitioning to the TF due to more action and better liquidity. Will save some money on commissions as well.

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