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Wolfgang1756
 

Registered: Oct 2009
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11-07-09 04:03 PM

I have read that Warren Buffett wrote a lot of uncovered Puts on all the world's major stock indexes with an expiration of like 15 years or so. I thought the longest Call/Puts were like 1-2 years! 15 years???

Is there a way to find out exactly which indexes and strikes? And the premium he got?

I am just curious what Implied Volatility he got???

Also I read today on Bloomberg that he is also short Credit Defualt Swaps. Things which contributed to the collapse last year!

So which companies bonds did he sell protection for? I hope not Lehman

Where can I find all this info?

Thanks!

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xflat2186
 

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 1434

 

11-07-09 04:05 PM

If he did short those puts they are not listed products, it would be all OTC stuff so you wont be able to find out.

The credit default market is also not a listed market so again its private party info

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CET
 

Registered: Nov 2008
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11-07-09 04:12 PM

http://finance.yahoo.com/special-ed...options-buffett

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ptrjon
 

Registered: Dec 2008
Posts: 47

 

11-07-09 04:25 PM

I would sell thse all day on the american indices if someone let me. The only way these options will have any value is if the stock market goes down an annualized 3%* every year over the next 20 years. (* approx. Inflation adjusted).

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xflat2186
 

Registered: Jun 2007
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11-07-09 04:29 PM

Actually they can easily blow up in your face in a major sell off which does not have to happen over time. The margin to carry those short puts would go through the roof and they would be tough to hold.

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dcvtss
 

Registered: Mar 2006
Posts: 242

 

11-07-09 04:32 PM

From an reuters article from earlier this year -

THE UNKNOWN

* Buffett has entered into 251 derivatives contracts, most
of which are essentially bets on the long-term direction of
stocks and junk bonds. He has said these contracts differ from
other derivatives he has called "financial weapons of mass
destruction" in part because of the billions of dollars of
premiums he collects upfront from counterparties. Berkshire has
four major types of contracts:

-- Berkshire has equity index "put" options tied to where
the Standard & Poor's 500, Britain's FTSE 100, Europe's Euro
Stoxx 50 and Japan's Nikkei 225 trade between September 2019
and January 2028. At year end, Berkshire had a $10.02 billion
paper liability on these contracts and said it could in theory
owe $37.13 billion if the indexes all went to zero.

-- Berkshire has contracts tied to credit losses in
higher-risk "junk" bonds between September 2009 and December
2013. At year end, Berkshire had a $3.03 billion paper
liability on the contracts and said it could in theory owe up
to $7.89 billion.

-- Berkshire wrote credit default swaps on $3.9 billion
of contracts covering 42 companies. At year end, Berkshire had
a $105 million liability.

-- Berkshire entered into tax-exempt bond insurance
contracts structured as derivatives. At year end, Berkshire had
a $958 million liability and $18.36 billion of potential
losses. Buffett said "we feel good" about the underlying bonds,
which are largely secured by states' taxing and borrowing
power.


Google is an amazing thing.
http://www.reuters.com/article/mnaN...043670220090430

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