Registered: Dec 2008
Posts: 2359

MB,

Come on man quit lurking – and add some content

I’ve read some of your stuff

RN

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 989

a real guru could benefit himself and his followers at the same time. it would be a very fine balance between the two to serve them both, but possible.

in other words a guru could benefit by publishing a perfectly good model if he were crafty. he would be profitable and the people who were using could be profitable as well.

the thing is that all gurus look the same and so how do you know the real thing from the fake thing? follow the money - but sometimes that is hard to do also. cause a crafty guru may not actually take income. but rather leave it parked somewhere.

damm crafty guru how do i catch him? well i think it helps to hang out around exchanges and get in with the crowd that knows for sure. guru referral is a crap shoot even amongst industry professionals. you can trust in the following statement - there are some people making huge money in the trading business actually trading.

toby crabel is one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Crabel

toby was a guru selling trading systems and little magazine articles while making a living off a past tennis career. he was one of the guys everyone would point a finger at and say - he's one of those a-hole vendor guys.

rick saidenberg would be another one http://www.traders.com/Documentatio...erview9708.html

rick was and still is a paid programmer who made it big managing money but was a "SYSTEMS SELLER" whooo bad word? Really?" I mean is that a bad word - these guys are exceptions and anyone who blankets all guru's as scammer is just always going to be an unenlightened loser.

99.99999 % are scammers but give credit to the ones who are not else we all be the fools for not pursuing their methods. for what one man can accomplish surely another can follow and possible improve upon it.

mb

Registered: Jun 2004
Posts: 66

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Quote from MarkBrown:

a real guru could benefit himself and his followers at the same time. it would be a very fine balance between the two to serve them both, but possible.

in other words a guru could benefit by publishing a perfectly good model if he were crafty. he would be profitable and the people who were using could be profitable as well.

the thing is that all gurus look the same and so how do you know the real thing from the fake thing? follow the money - but sometimes that is hard to do also. cause a crafty guru may not actually take income. but rather leave it parked somewhere.

damm crafty guru how do i catch him? well i think it helps to hang out around exchanges and get in with the crowd that knows for sure. guru referral is a crap shoot even amongst industry professionals. you can trust in the following statement - there are some people making huge money in the trading business actually trading.

toby crabel is one of them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toby_Crabel

toby was a guru selling trading systems and little magazine articles while making a living off a past tennis career. he was one of the guys everyone would point a finger at and say - he's one of those a-hole vendor guys.

rick saidenberg would be another one http://www.traders.com/Documentatio...erview9708.html

rick was and still is a paid programmer who made it big managing money but was a "SYSTEMS SELLER" whooo bad word? Really?" I mean is that a bad word - these guys are exceptions and anyone who blankets all guru's as scammer is just always going to be an unenlightened loser.

99.99999 % are scammers but give credit to the ones who are not else we all be the fools for not pursuing their methods. for what one man can accomplish surely another can follow and possible improve upon it.

mb

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Toby Crable is the man! Sold his book and tried to have it removed about 3 years after, I had 2 copies of the original, one which is now in the possession of Mr Brown

I agree there are a few golden nuggets out there but good luck finding them.

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 989

hey i do have your book on toby and i think i have an extra one. i need to get it back to you some time when your back in the country!

Registered: Feb 2010
Posts: 1

wow, great thread.
I am currently studying guruism. thanx for the tips

you guys have shown that it isn't not necessarily that all together difficult to get started in this. I am a newbi guru but can see much potential.

My reasons for getting into it:

1. trading has been going not that "GREAT" for "awhile"
2. picked up a lot of jargon ie: lingo, and what not
3. I know a little about very wide ranging topics
4. I have made all of the mistakes one encounters
5. real good at photoshop
6. plenty of time
7. I finally got it that morals were just getting in the way
8. getting real good at guessing "THE TRENDS"
9. started new religon to facilitate(get the message out)
10. no prob assuming new "IDs"

my question is, and I thanx in advance, do you guys think that I will be a"TOP NOTCH" type if I promise to read up on the all the different ways, and work at it ,so much time, every week?

the reason I ask is because I need to make a lot of money back as soon as I can and trading for real is just not an "OPTION" for me anymore.

My greatist strength is that over the years I have put in a lot of "SCREEN TIME" and it wasn't all watching cartoons if you get my drifty.

I will def. be checking back in on this place for updates....
over & out

Registered: Jan 2010
Posts: 71

Poor old Jack believes he was hired by the UN and several countries to investigate claims of global warming at Antarctica as he told us in this thread:

http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showt...6&pagenumber=14

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Quote from jack hershey:

You may not be a professional explorer hired by various nations or the united Nations. I was and there was a purpose. Long range planning primarily.

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Stop in the gift shop on your way out and buy the limited edition commemorative Jack Hershey action figure.. limit one per customer

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