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RoughTrader
 

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 625

 

05-13-09 06:55 AM


Quote from sphedge:

Are you using Tradestation? For both strategy automation and as a broker?

Thanks



I use TS with ninjatrader via NTdirect.dll for order execution. I have scripted my own custom execution script which is implemented as an easylanguage "indicator" in a tradestation chart. The "indicator" is referencing NTdirect.dll to issue commands to IB TWS through Ninjatrader.

This has worked fine for me for some time. My style of trade would even allow using TS as the broker, as I obviously do not employ a rapid-fire intraday method. I don't like the way TS has set up their brokerage service, requiring specific accounts to trade specific instruments, and wiring funds out of your account is a pain in the ass.

Right now I'm looking into using NTdirect.dll inside ninjascript. Because ninjascript is C# with specific custom classes, the language is more powerful than easylanguage. Again, the goal is to avoid using a canned approach to automation. I feel automated execution is a completely separate and distinct development effort from strategy design, which is simply a modeling effort.

I have more investigating to do, but I'm pretty sure ninjascript can reference functions provided by NTdirect.dll. If so, I will port my easylanguage execution script to ninjascript/C#. I have also been curious about the zenfire feed for some time, so I am also thinking to open a small account with mirus futures to see if I can implement order execution using zenfire / NT, and reserve TS only for offline modeling and strategy design.

rt

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smgreen
 

Registered: Mar 2002
Posts: 9

 

05-13-09 12:56 PM

Can you suggest a few articles or books for intro into automated trading? I read the previous post and realize how little I know.

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RoughTrader
 

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 625

 

05-13-09 04:03 PM


Quote from smgreen:

Can you suggest a few articles or books for intro into automated trading? I read the previous post and realize how little I know.



My previous post was about automated order execution, so I guess you want to learn more about that.

There are canned solutions that offer strategy design / backtesting AND automated order execution all from one script. TS is a good example. I generally disagree with the soundness of this approach.

I believe using "order entry macros" is the way to go. These macros are nothing more than commands issued to your broker platform. They are order submission, order modification, and order cancellation. TS has the order entry macros that can be called from script, and NinjaTrader does as well. I chose to use NinjaTrader.

You can go to NinjaTrader's website to find documentation on automated trading. There really is no book to learn from, but you have to overcome a programming learning curve if software design is not your thing.

rt

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flyingdutchmen
 

Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 204

 

05-19-09 10:09 PM

will you update your last results ?

i am very curious how your ats has been performing this
week in those volatile trending days

i also apreciate the tips you have been given very much

this tread keeps me motivated not to give up on my current work and stay creativ as it is proof automated trading can be done


good luck

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RoughTrader
 

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 625

 

05-20-09 07:48 AM

Sorry for the delay....

Wednesday, 05/13/2009
Security: ESM9
Session PNL: ($604.70) USD
To-Date PNL: $7,302.94 USD
Account Balance: $92,680.08 USD

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RoughTrader
 

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 625

 

05-20-09 07:50 AM

Thursday, 05/14/2009
Security: ESM9
Session PNL: ($152.80) USD
To-Date PNL: $7,150.14 USD
Account Balance: $92,527.28 USD

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