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FightTheFuture
 

Registered: Jun 2006
Posts: 1709

 

01-13-09 03:32 PM


Quote from Sam Mcgee:

If you look at it from the public/non traders' perspective, how do you prevent excessive bubbles or collapses from happening? Unstable prices wreak havoc on the economy. Who caused the run up and then collapse of equity and commodity prices? Weren't traders a big part of that?

More stable prices for equities and commodities would be a lot better for everyone, perhaps even better for traders. What else could you do to stabilize prices besides charging a trading tax? Is there a better way?



There was a transaction tax for 50 years, before, during and after the 1929 crash.

A 0.25% tax will do absolutely nothing to prevent people from buying into bubble mania and selling the crashes.

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gnome
 

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 10007

 

01-13-09 03:33 PM


Quote from DmanX:

Why do traders have to pay for something they didn't create?

What created the housing bubble?

1. Lax lending standards.
2. "Innovative" loans.
3. Securitization of mortgages that transfer most of the risk to the investor.
4. Zero down loans.

That in turn created price inflation across the board.

Traders make money via volatility. They speculate. They have no vested interest in continued price appreciation which is what a bubble is, albeit parabolically. Investors have a vested interest in it as they almost exclusively make money on the buy side of things by buying and holding.

If you want to stop bubbles, you engage in proactive regulation. Meaning, sit down and assess the risk of some new fangled financial activity and act expeditiously to moderate it. But instead what happened is that the so called regulators turned a blind eye and/or encouraged it.



Totally agree!

There are several parties who deserve the BIG FINGER OF BLAME here.

1. First and foremost, the DemoCraps!! Their 1999 legislation demanding Affirmative Action Lending and that Fannie Mae guarantee the loans.

2. The Fed for providing stupidly excessive liquidity at stupidly low rates.

3. Regulators who didn't put a stop to CDS "BETS".

4. Regulators for allowing 40:1 leverage at investment banks.

5. SOME of Wall Street... for promoting a flawed, highly leveraged, [thought to be "risk free"] investment.

6. Credit rating agencies for grading "shit as sugar".

7. Greedy investors levering up to load on the perceived "risk free return".

NONE of these are the Wall Street trading community...

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seasideheights
 

Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 972

 

01-13-09 03:38 PM

Post here.

http://community.nytimes.com/articl.../13herbert.html

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piggie2000
 

Registered: Apr 2008
Posts: 431

 

01-13-09 03:41 PM

What did a transaction tax do to stop crashes in china,india and the uk? they all have transaction taxes. 90% of the people on et will go bust and millions of jobs lost from brokers from mer down to amtd. it will hurt returns of almost every mutual fund

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wave
 

Registered: Mar 2005
Posts: 2632

 

01-13-09 03:46 PM

I am not registered. Somebody please post this link to that yutz editor.

http://news.cnet.com/2010-1071-960207.html

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jficquette
 

Registered: Jun 2002
Posts: 4397

 

01-13-09 03:50 PM

All you dumbasses who voted for Obama get what you deserve. LOL.

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