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andohmeeta
 

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07-12-12 12:18 PM

House of Lords FTT debate Hansard Wednesday 11 July 2012 (scroll down to 5.48 pm)

http://www.publications.parliament....m#1207122000285

Lord Harrison refers to March 2012 report, "Towards a Financial Transaction Tax" (link below)

http://www.publications.parliament....com/287/287.pdf

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TraDaToR
 

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07-12-12 01:10 PM

Nothing related, but in your view, what will be the outcome of the french tax coming Aug, 1st( now that the rate is 0.2% ):

- HFs targets anything french under the sun, the CAC40 crashes, it teaches the eurocrats a good lesson but France is now in the same situation as Spain.

- Everybody stops trading taxed instruments, volume drops, the government is bitter watching their "tax revenues" but nothing more.

I hope it will be the second scenario. The first would be too serious for the Eurozone.

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justrading
 

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07-12-12 01:18 PM


Quote from TraDaToR:

Nothing related, but in your view, what will be the outcome of the french tax coming Aug, 1st( now that the rate is 0.2% ):

- HFs targets anything french under the sun, the CAC40 crashes, it teaches the eurocrats a good lesson but France is now in the same situation as Spain.

- Everybody stops trading taxed instruments, volume drops, the government is bitter watching their "tax revenues" but nothing more.

I hope it will be the second scenario. The first would be too serious for the Eurozone.



If my memory serves me well, the French have banned short selling as and when they have seen the need. If targeted, they simply do that and it takes away the profit from the market decline.

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d08
 

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07-12-12 01:32 PM


Quote from TraDaToR:

Nothing related, but in your view, what will be the outcome of the french tax coming Aug, 1st( now that the rate is 0.2% ):

- HFs targets anything french under the sun, the CAC40 crashes, it teaches the eurocrats a good lesson but France is now in the same situation as Spain.

- Everybody stops trading taxed instruments, volume drops, the government is bitter watching their "tax revenues" but nothing more.

I hope it will be the second scenario. The first would be too serious for the Eurozone.



Volume won't drop as banks will use the loopholes to trade without it. Politicians will hail it as a victory but they won't mention that the tax won't be raising almost any revenues - that piece of information will be buried so deep, no one will find it.
Main street will be ignorant and happy as long as the "bad bankers" are paying, not realizing they are the only ones paying this tax.

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TraDaToR
 

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07-12-12 02:58 PM


Quote from d08:

Volume won't drop as banks will use the loopholes to trade without it. Politicians will hail it as a victory but they won't mention that the tax won't be raising almost any revenues - that piece of information will be buried so deep, no one will find it.
Main street will be ignorant and happy as long as the "bad bankers" are paying, not realizing they are the only ones paying this tax.



Only market making activities( and passive stat arb )can still be traded tax free by the banks. They will sure continue to quote the same B/A spread but there won't be for sure the same volume of trading due to the number of active counterparts who will cease trading, beginning with HFs and HFTs that are also trageted by the HFT tax.

Really good remark about short selling ban. They can interfere with a HF induced crack.

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zdreg
 

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07-12-12 03:18 PM


Quote from TraDaToR:

Only market making activities( and passive stat arb )can still be traded tax free by the banks. They will sure continue to quote the same B/A spread but there won't be for sure the same volume of trading due to the number of active counterparts who will cease trading, beginning with HFs and HFTs that are also trageted by the HFT tax.

Really good remark about short selling ban. They can interfere with a HF induced crack.


Really good remark about short selling ban. They can interfere with a HF induced crack.

please explain.

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