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harkm
 

Registered: Jul 2002
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01-13-09 05:25 PM


Quote from Sandybestdog:

Didn’t we already go over this? Right now I’m filling in for the day for my friend who owns a store in the local mall. 30 feet from me is the kiosk that I owned for 6 months. I worked 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and invested over $25,000 to see that business succeed. Do you think I had a “why can’t I” mentality when I opened that? I tried everything I could. I asked friends and family for advice on why I had no business. The mall staff couldn’t figure it out. A local magazine even put my product and store location in as one of their top 10 gifts for the holidays. All of this failed miserably and nobody I asked could explain why to me.

So don’t tell me I haven’t worked hard enough. This is just one of the many things I have tried and nothing has worked out. Again we still have this notion that hard work pays off when it clearly doesn’t. Only smart work pays off and perhaps even to some extent dishonest work pays off.

BTW, that kiosk is empty right now. Several merchants have been there since me, all are gone now. I guess I figured out that this mall isn’t the best place to do business. Unfortunately it took me $20,000 to figure that out. That’s how business goes.

I didn’t go the traditional go to college to get a good job route. Maybe I should have. But I don’t want to work for somebody else and have to rely on them. I’ve been trying to make it on my own.




Sandybestdog, how did you save up the $25000?

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
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01-13-09 05:43 PM


Quote from harkm:
Sandybestdog, how did you save up the $25000?


Haven’t you been reading this thread? PIZZA DELIVERY. $2 and $3 tips at a time. I made almost every dime I’ve ever invested in the markets and business doing what society deems as a worthless job. Also as I explained earlier, I live a very modest life. I live with my parents and drive a very old car. I used to watch every dollar I spend because I wanted to, now I do it because I have to.

So again. I’ll ask the question nobody has answered. If I used to make lots of money doing a worthless job, how come I can’t anymore? How long until skilled proffessions like nurses, electricians, computer tech’s etc. are saying the same thing?

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harkm
 

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01-13-09 05:51 PM


Quote from Sandybestdog:

Haven’t you been reading this thread? PIZZA DELIVERY. $2 and $3 tips at a time. I made almost every dime I’ve ever invested in the markets and business doing what society deems as a worthless job. Also as I explained earlier, I live a very modest life. I live with my parents and drive a very old car. I used to watch every dollar I spend because I wanted to, now I do it because I have to.

So again. I’ll ask the question nobody has answered. If I used to make lots of money doing a worthless job, how come I can’t anymore? How long until skilled proffessions like nurses, electricians, computer tech’s etc. are saying the same thing?



Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread because some of the posts were rather long. Damn, if you saved $25000 delivering pizzas that is some serious saving. The answer to your question is tough. Are you delivering less pizzas or are you getting less tips per pizza or both? You can still do a lot with $25000 even now.

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
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01-14-09 12:58 AM


Quote from harkm:
Sorry, I didn't read the entire thread because some of the posts were rather long. Damn, if you saved $25000 delivering pizzas that is some serious saving. The answer to your question is tough. Are you delivering less pizzas or are you getting less tips per pizza or both? You can still do a lot with $25000 even now.


Sorry about that. Yes I know my posts can get a little long. It’s a combination of vetting a little and the fact that I don’t get this sort of mental exercise elsewhere. Everywhere I go, everywhere I work, and most everbody I know is not quite so engaging. I like arguing, in case you haven’t noticed. Nobody I know wants to make money and change the world. I try to meet people, but haven’t found any, except online.

$25,000 can go a long way. I don’t have any money any more. I lost it all in trading and business, and have some credit cards to pay off now. Like I said before, that is perfectly ok. That’s how business goes. The problem is that I can’t make the money anymore to invest in other things. So I am faced with the reality now that I need to make a career change to make up for it and lack the skills and experience to do that. Getting those will inevitably take more time and money.

Why isn’t pizza delivery what it used to be? Well that would take a while to explain. Business is down that’s for sure. I actually get paid less by the company than I did 5 years ago. The $2 delivery charge that the company charges goes to them, not me. So customers think I get it and don’t tip or tip less. The good customers don’t order as much any more because they don’t have money either. The bad, poor customers will always spend money though. I only get 86 cents per delivery for mileage, and that is nowhere near enough so I have to pay out of pocket for car repairs. The price of gas is the least of my concerns. The labor market is very tight now and there are a lot of other drivers now and we have to all split the few orders left. Meanwhile it seems the cost of living never stops going up. I'm sure many other jobs are facing the same challanges right now.

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
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01-14-09 01:09 AM


Quote from vhehn:
the first thing you need to understand is the bible was written as a means of keeping the poor under control.


You think so? Everytime I hear the Europeans talk about their Socialistic programs, they seem to point to Jesus as the first Socialist. I disagree with this completely, but it does seem like the Bible focus’s on the needs of the poor a lot and protecting them. But Jesus told the rich man to sell all his possessions and give it to the poor, not for Caesar to take all the rich man’s money and give it to the poor while keeping a big chunk for himself.

I was raised in a very Christian home, but for all intensive purposes, I don’t really care about that anymore. That’s a discussion for another day.

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clacy
 

Registered: Sep 2006
Posts: 2411

 

01-14-09 01:15 AM


Quote from vhehn:

the first thing you need to understand is the bible was written as a means of keeping the poor under control.



Yes, because all of the other religions do so well comparitively to Christians in regards to economics. This must be true. Great point, with tons of factual information to back it up!!!!!!!

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