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gnome
 

Registered: Jun 2002
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12-30-08 03:50 PM


Quote from marketsurfer:

very true. Luck is the absolute most important factor. markets change all the time, if you're a one trick pony and not flexible, as most are, you're simply not going to last...

happy new year gnome!

surf



Thanks. You too.

Too bad most ET'ers don't recognize when a little wisdom is dispensed here...

"A smart man learns from his mistakes... a wise man learns from the mistakes of others"

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Mav88
 

Registered: Aug 2008
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12-30-08 04:16 PM

Sandybestdog,

The very idea that everyone should 'get ahead' is way oversold. This was the american dream that somehow went from dream to entitlement. You have to ask yourself exactly what you think everyone should have, then ask whether or not people really produce to that level. Liberty is what this nation is founded on, not material well being and entitlement.

Initially I took the safest rout- went to school for a long time. For many of those years I didn't own a car and health insurance was a vitamin. Never in my life have I thought that my living was guaranteed or a right, and I live small. Either accept freedom and the uncertainty of it all, or move to a communist nation where you can live at exactly the same level (poverty) as everyone else.

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 886

 

12-30-08 05:14 PM


Quote from Sam Mcgee:

Yes, Americans work a lot, I've seen those statistics as well. What does that have to do with my argument that too much television has caused too much consumption in the US?:

http://www.economist.com/research/a...tory_id=9527126

http://dilsenomad.wordpress.com/200...nd-consumption/

Or maybe this is easier for those that aren't used to reading:

http://news.zdnet.com/2422-13568_22-155512.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfvyrhKpDnY


I still don’t see your point. This thread is about people not saving. I thought one of the ways to save is to work a lot. So what if people watch a lot of tv if they’re working a lot. I can’t wait to see how Jack Bauer saves the world next.

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 886

 

12-30-08 05:30 PM


Quote from marketsurfer:
Sorry to hear about your struggles. however, you can start a business with little or no money. I started my tiny publishing company back in 1990 with $30.00--just enough to print up 1000 flyers advertising my marketing. Now, its so much easier to start out-- with the internet, etc. . This business would never make me wealthy, but it bought me a nice lifestyle and almost absolute freedom to do what i want when i want--so that i could work on the things that had great potential for wealth.

You need to remember that LUCK has a tremendous amount to do with success. Therefore, I wish you luck in 2009.

surf



Thank you. I sold a lot on eBay and enjoyed that very much. I don’t have anything to sell right now. It’s very difficult to find good stuff. Eventually something will work out, but in the meantime it just keeps getting harder and harder to stay afloat.

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Sandybestdog
 

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 886

 

12-30-08 05:46 PM


Quote from Mav88:

Sandybestdog,

The very idea that everyone should 'get ahead' is way oversold. This was the american dream that somehow went from dream to entitlement. You have to ask yourself exactly what you think everyone should have, then ask whether or not people really produce to that level. Liberty is what this nation is founded on, not material well being and entitlement.

Initially I took the safest rout- went to school for a long time. For many of those years I didn't own a car and health insurance was a vitamin. Never in my life have I thought that my living was guaranteed or a right, and I live small. Either accept freedom and the uncertainty of it all, or move to a communist nation where you can live at exactly the same level (poverty) as everyone else.



I never said people should have a free ride to“get ahead” I am saying for my generation it is much more difficult to get ahead than the last. Why do we play the blame game so much instead of coming up with solutions to fix the problem? Our job markets are eroding. How can we bring back good jobs? Up until recently housing prices were out of control. Let’s have them keep falling so my generation might one day be able to afford it. Why are bankers allowed to print money out of thin air and the consumer has to pay for it through inflation? Why has health insurance gone up 50% in 5 years? How do we bring down the cost of medical care?

Not to mention the baby boomers are going to make out nicely with Social inSecurity while my generation will pay for it. Or we’ll just borrow more from China. If I’m ever able to retire, there will either be nothing left, or the dollar will be so inflated that it won’t buy anything.

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trendlover
 

Registered: Nov 2007
Posts: 3621

 

12-30-08 05:46 PM


Quote from Sandybestdog:

Thank you. I sold a lot on eBay and enjoyed that very much. I don’t have anything to sell right now. It’s very difficult to find good stuff. Eventually something will work out, but in the meantime it just keeps getting harder and harder to stay afloat.




Sandy, go look on chit chat and Brandon is trying to start a thread for learning how to create a business on the internet.

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