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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 08:47 PM   #1
wilburbear
 
 
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Can you imagine how little work it takes to run a fund of funds, and then have only one fund that you do no due diligence on?

http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com...lion-on-madoff
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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 09:16 PM   #2
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Fairfield are history. They will be inundated with lawsuits plus their actual (real) FoF business is dead with the Madoff story.

They didn't just have one fund. They had Fairfield Sentry = Madoff vehicle with 7.5bln. This was a feeder fund (collecting money from unsuspecting poor SOBs for % fees).

Then they had a couple other funds of funds (non Madoff funds) that were probably legit businesses but rest assured they are getting 100% redemptions on everything they manage right now.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 09:19 PM   #3
Drock409
 
 
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WOW...what a complete SCAM!!!!
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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 09:41 PM   #4
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http://clusterstock.alleyinsider.com...n-for-humanity

I suppose you get lower than this, but I'll be damned if I can see how.

Remember whenthis broke, people said, "Oh this can't/won't be that big'.

Bloomberg reported they count it at 30bb, and you know it'll just grow from here. But what do you do with 50bb. Even if he took huge losses, they'd show up. He had to ship it offshore.

Amazing. 30 to 50 bb gone. Nuts.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 09:50 PM   #5
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my guess is that a huge portion of the 50b in losses is made of of the bogus return on investment. It is a loss on a gain that in fact never existed.
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Old Dec 18th, 2008, 09:53 PM   #6
Surdo
 
 
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If he paid out 8-10% a year PLUS FEES...and never invested the money, what the fuck you think is gonna happen to the money?

There are still like 10 reporters and cameramen in front of his building, I walked by earlier.

SCUMBAG with a capital "S"!
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