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Robert Weinstein
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3849

 

05-12-08 02:34 PM

Closed out ATVI right before the bell.

ave buy price 31.04

+908 for the trade

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Robert Weinstein
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3849

 

05-12-08 04:14 PM


Quote from Capablanca:

So are you daytrading or swing trading? Are your basic methods any different when doing one or the other?



Hello Capablanca,

I actually trade in both day trades and swing. The setups are very different with nothing to do with each other.

Best of trading to you

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Robert Weinstein
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3849

 

05-12-08 04:18 PM


Quote from c.chugani:

sorry for my noobishness,

but I get it that you sold the stock short @ 40.08 and sold puts with 37.50 strike.

So 37.50 is your target for the trade (if stock falls below this price, the puts would be exercise and you would be obliged to buy back MIR at 37.50).

In the scenario that MIR rallies and the puts expire worthless (ie. your gain) where would you place the stop on the short stock position?

Thanks for clarifying.



Hello C,

Thanks for your post and its a good question.

If MIR doesn't act as I expect I am willing to exit even if it doesn't move at all.

The reason for writing the options is that I am fading the movement and I am selling time premium. If the options can be sold at a fair to better than fair premium and I am going to hold the position for long enough I will want to gain some extra by writing the covered options.

I don't have a set stop loss other than around the 2-3% loss amount I start to look for the exit door.

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c.chugani
 

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 318

 

05-12-08 04:53 PM


Quote from 1Reason:

Hello C,

Thanks for your post and its a good question.

If MIR doesn't act as I expect I am willing to exit even if it doesn't move at all.

The reason for writing the options is that I am fading the movement and I am selling time premium. If the options can be sold at a fair to better than fair premium and I am going to hold the position for long enough I will want to gain some extra by writing the covered options.

I don't have a set stop loss other than around the 2-3% loss amount I start to look for the exit door.



What would you do if your 2-3% stop on the short stock position is hit and immediately later the stock price falls again - all before the option expiry date?

You would have covered your stock position but would be left with a naked put..

would you cover (or place stops) on the option position as well? If so, aren't you faced with a possible double loss (ie. buying both stock and options at higher prices than you had initially sold)?

Once again, thanks for your time.

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Robert Weinstein
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3849

 

05-12-08 08:26 PM


Quote from c.chugani:

What would you do if your 2-3% stop on the short stock position is hit and immediately later the stock price falls again - all before the option expiry date?

You would have covered your stock position but would be left with a naked put..

would you cover (or place stops) on the option position as well? If so, aren't you faced with a possible double loss (ie. buying both stock and options at higher prices than you had initially sold)?

Once again, thanks for your time.



Hello C,

Good question, I generally enter into and exit out of covered trades first through the option leg of it due to liquidity issues.

I try to sell on the ask and buy the bid even with options.

If a trade has gone against me over 2% I start looking to get out or at least look at it and see if I want to get out. I don't have a fast and hard rule on stop losses.

Of course in a fast moving market it can get costly to try to get out of both a stock and the options.

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Robert Weinstein
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3849

 

05-12-08 08:33 PM

Still holding the short swings

BP
CVX
MIR
SYNA

I had some day trades

SINA + 1056
CCU + 454
EXM +331

I scalped SOHU today while waiting for other trades

SOHU + 321

I also closed out of ATVI but I had an extra buy order in that I closed for a small loss. so instead of the +908 it ended up being + 840

Still long UAUA covered

+ 2993 for the day / week
+ 10467 for the month
+ 49431 for the year

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