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ratboy88
 

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 6163

 

04-13-08 06:24 PM


Quote from EdgeHunter:


Maybe a uTube video... (+) An article in a trading magazine... (+) A signed petition from a large group disagreeing with how this is unfolding...




great idea... Trader Daily seems like one that would pursue this story:
http://www.traderdaily.com

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monstercat
 

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 204

 

04-13-08 06:45 PM

i'm not going to stfu. tuco and the rest of the 100's of non licensed llc's broke the law by offering over 4-1 margin period.the law is the law. why they went after tuco nobody knows. but obviously several other broker dealers had to have been contacted as why would assent have come up with a disclaimer that has to be signed by all llc's within 1 week after all this started?MY WHOLE THESIS IS IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY INSURED GO RETAIL OTHERWISE YOU HAVE RISK.

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sdtrader
 

Registered: May 2002
Posts: 349

 

04-13-08 06:50 PM

Yes, we understand your "thesis". But didn't your "thesis" just include a S7.

Got news for you sparky- Assent could close up shop tomorrow and your S7 wouldn't help you in the least. You could still lose all your money.

Now if your problem is with people getting leverage- then so be it. Haven't a clue why you need to throw a hissy fit with people getting leverage.

And its not making much sense to me anyway. When you were bothering me with PMs you were pimping Anvil. So you used to be with Assent and then traded on Sterling, assuming you are back with Assent now.

Are you under the delusion your money is insured? If they were to close up shop and get ripped- are you going to be on an Assent thread telling yourself to stop whining about losing your money???

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ratboy88
 

Registered: Dec 2003
Posts: 6163

 

04-13-08 07:05 PM


Quote from monsterturd:

i'm not going to stfu. tuco and the rest of the 100's of non licensed llc's broke the law by offering over 4-1 margin period.the law is the law.



ummmm... monsterturd? please cite the code you reference. a little hint here... the 34 exchange act only deals with brokers inducing the public to buy stocks INTERSTATE by means of fraud. it has absolutely nothing to do with Trading LLC's.

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hedgefund07
 

Registered: Jun 2007
Posts: 32

 

04-13-08 07:08 PM

Neither Doug nor Tuco broke any laws. Please show me where he pleaded guilty to anything. Please show me where there was a criminal prosecution.



Quote from monstercat:

i'm not going to stfu. tuco and the rest of the 100's of non licensed llc's broke the law by offering over 4-1 margin period.the law is the law. why they went after tuco nobody knows. but obviously several other broker dealers had to have been contacted as why would assent have come up with a disclaimer that has to be signed by all llc's within 1 week after all this started?MY WHOLE THESIS IS IF YOU WANT YOUR MONEY INSURED GO RETAIL OTHERWISE YOU HAVE RISK.

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monstercat
 

Registered: Dec 2007
Posts: 204

 

04-13-08 07:08 PM

sd trader the only reason i pm'ed you is i thought you were affilaited with tuco which i'm not to sure you're not. as far as leverage i have nothing against it and if people want to get it then its up to them. yes you're correct wether s 7 or not any shop can close up. the whole pt is when you count on others for leverage and don't have your own sipc retail insured account you have risk, many on et have made millions using prop leverage and i'm sure if they lost there deposit tommorrow they'd say they knew the risk and are ok with it. and i'm not prop nor have i ever been a prop trader. i have nothing further to comment on this subject






The SEC charged Tuco Trading, LLC, and its principal, Douglas G. Frederick, with violating broker-dealer registration and antifraud provisions of the securities laws. According to the SEC's complaint, the defendants provide securities day-trading capability to Tuco's more than 250 traders who had approximately $10.2 million invested in Tuco. They permitted traders to day-trade securities in Tuco's own brokerage accounts at registered broker-dealers through sub-accounts created at Tuco for each trader.

The defendants enticed traders with services unavailable at a registered broker-dealer. As alleged in the complaint, they allowed traders to day-trade without meeting the $25,000 minimum equity requirement under NASD regulations for such trading. The SEC's complaint also alleges that for each $1 in the trader's sub-account, Tuco and Frederick allowed the traders at Tuco to use up to $20 of Tuco's equity, which has been invested by other traders, to purchase securities (20:1 buying power). NASD and NYSE regulations, however, only allow a day-trader to have 4:1 buying power.

"Tuco provided traders with trading capability not permitted at registered broker-dealers," said Linda Chatman Thomsen, Director of the SEC's Division of Enforcement. "This case warns investors that the additional trading capability comes at a steep price — the safety of their money."

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