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yoohoo
 

Registered: Aug 2006
Posts: 1466

 

03-23-08 05:57 PM

trader56, yip, drawing X's and O's on the back of fag packets and transferring them to graph paper at the EOD. The most unintensive type of trading I've seen. Box size allows you to be as active as you want.

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ElCubano
 

Registered: Jul 2002
Posts: 6910

 

03-23-08 09:33 PM

Good job Holy...I look forward to reading more juicy stuff...thank you for sharing and taking the time to post your thoughts....

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HolyGrail
 

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 2803

 

03-24-08 03:25 AM

I mentioned earlier when you use pnf for intraday trading you have to be aware of your potential setups BEFORE they materialize. With the current state of volatility you can miss some really great moves. When I trade es intraday I use 3 charts with different box sizes. I do this ONLY because there are few setups I want to trade. One setup may appear on one chart but not on another. I want to have as many good trading opportunities as I can during the day. My preference is to trade on the .75 chart

Under my normal trading, I am trying to get as many points as possible BEFORE there is a reversal. In doing so, I can be leaving many points on the table because the overall pattern may remain favorable even after a reversal.

This is why I mentioned you could decide to move your stops to one box below the last reversal. This will keep you in the trade longer. It will be up to you to decide on your strategy.

If you see a failed double top on a .5 chart you have to realize that the smaller box size is easily reversed and you cannot expect as much profit potential had that same signal appeared on the .75 chart. Now if I take the trade based on the .5, and the failed double top later appears on the .75 or at least some type of bearish signal appeared on the .75 , I will now base my target and stop on the information in the .75 chart.

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sharp10
 

Registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 225

 

03-24-08 03:32 AM


Quote from HolyGrail:

I mentioned earlier when you use pnf for intraday trading you have to be aware of your potential setups BEFORE they materialize. With the current state of volatility you can miss some really great moves. When I trade es intraday I use 3 charts with different box sizes. I do this ONLY because there are few setups I want to trade. One setup may appear on one chart but not on another. I want to have as many good trading opportunities as I can during the day. My preference is to trade on the .75 chart

Under my normal trading, I am trying to get as many points as possible BEFORE there is a reversal. In doing so, I can be leaving many points on the table because the overall pattern may remain favorable even after a reversal.

This is why I mentioned you could decide to move your stops to one box below the last reversal. This will keep you in the trade longer. It will be up to you to decide on your strategy.

If you see a failed double top on a .5 chart you have to realize that the smaller box size is easily reversed and you cannot expect as much profit potential had that same signal appeared on the .75 chart. Now if I take the trade based on the .5, and the failed double top later appears on the .75 or at least some type of bearish signal appeared on the .75 , I will now base my target and stop on the information in the .75 chart.



HG, thanks for that.
I understand the concept. If you have some time could you post an example?

Thanks very much.

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HolyGrail
 

Registered: Jul 2006
Posts: 2803

 

03-24-08 03:33 AM

I am working on that right now

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staffpro
 

Registered: Mar 2008
Posts: 635

 

03-24-08 03:33 AM

so if this is to be done on a day to day basis it is probably better to do it with futures because you would have 3 charts open rather than 3 charts open for every single stock you are interested in leading to more chances to fail.????

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