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futurecurrents
Registered: May 2002
Posts: 3348 |
07-08-12 03:43 AM
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
No doubt true but it represents a failure on the part of republicnas to educate people. Gingrich had a point when he criticized Paul Ryan for coming out with a bold budget program without preparing the foundation before hand.
Ron Paul and various conservative think tanks have propsed large budget cuts that would hardly affect us. Pull out of these ridiculous overseas military adventures. Terminate the Departments of Education, HUD, Commerce, Labor, etc. Cut all pork like rail projects and bridges to nowhere. Cut foreign aid, particularly to the middle east.
There are trillions in savings out there, all without raising taxes.
How much do we spend on "defense" again? Something like 40% of our discretionary ? I think that's also coincidentally the amount of control the military complex has on our government.
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denner
Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 3274 |
07-08-12 04:04 AM
Quote from jem:
this is the difference between the left and the right.
ricter says we are low tax...but refuses to acknowledge are taxes are massive when you add them up.
Obamacare tax... plus...
http://thekitchencabinet.us/2011/10...xes-in-america/
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and
local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax
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Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago!”
Completely agree. The cumulative effect is what matters.
Notice it's very difficult to get around the vast majority of these "ancillary" taxes.
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mrbill
Registered: Jun 2012
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07-08-12 10:08 PM
So we get rid of public schools and education, great idea. Then only the very rich will be able to afford to educate their kids. So, a whole generation of spoiled brats will be able to use their revised history to control the masses, GREAT IDEA.
Even funnier, some of these posters actually think their kids will go to private schools. Most cannot even afford to educate themselves.
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peilthetraveler
Registered: Jun 2005
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07-09-12 01:14 AM
Quote from mrbill:
So we get rid of public schools and education, great idea. Then only the very rich will be able to afford to educate their kids. So, a whole generation of spoiled brats will be able to use their revised history to control the masses, GREAT IDEA.
Even funnier, some of these posters actually think their kids will go to private schools. Most cannot even afford to educate themselves.
Yes, because only the very rich can afford a $15 phonics book and $20 math books.
Great critical thinking skills you have there, too. I write that we should cut the excess fat off what kids are learning and you read that as I said we should get rid of education completely. Obviously the current public school education didn't help you much.
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mrbill
Registered: Jun 2012
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07-09-12 01:27 AM
Quote from peilthetraveler:
Yes, because only the very rich can afford a $15 phonics book and $20 math books.
Great critical thinking skills you have there, too. I write that we should cut the excess fat off what kids are learning and you read that as I said we should get rid of education completely. Obviously the current public school education didn't help you much.
Oh sure, I can see you have never bothered going to school. Just put a book down and they read it? I suppose you're against all thinking for the kids, perhaps like the new Texas Rep mandates. Or, do you not even know what they're proposing?
Just for your perusal: The Texas Republican Party platform: Creationism, denialism, “health freedom,” and “vaccine choice” all rolled up into one big antiscience ball
Look, try not attacking your opponent, it rarely works. And, I'll admit that I sometimes fall into the trap as well. Without public education, however, we, as a Nation, will just get worse.
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