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ragingjustice
 

Registered: Sep 2005
Posts: 13

 

10-23-12 08:39 PM

price action = PA, no tools can be trusted other than PA

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kinggyppo
 

Registered: May 2006
Posts: 5836

 

10-23-12 11:40 PM


Quote from falconview:

What is PA?



price action I will let the other guy explain what he means by it, tape reading if you are old school.

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Put_Master
 

Registered: May 2009
Posts: 1029

 

12-07-12 05:45 PM


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Sold naked puts on $17.5 WMS for August.
Credit $0.30
I tried geting $0.35, but didn't get filled.
Annualized % return on the trade.... 17%

Stocks fundamentals are mixed, but overall reasonable.
Tech support at or above my strike is also reasonable.
I probably should have waited for the stock to drop a bit more and perhaps test 19, but I wouldn't get much more credit for it, and thus not worth the risk of missing the trade, or losing a weeks time decay over an extra $0.05
The L-T downside risk I see is about $16, and a covered call would take care of that issue.


As an update....
This $17.5 WMS trade was put to me.
I then sold a $17.5 Jan covered call for $1.00
Today I closed the Jan covered call for $0.30, thus keeping $0.70.
Thus my current BE price is $16.50. (Put credit $0.30 and call credit $0.70)

I plan to sell a Jan $15 call if/when the credit pays $1.55
If the order is filled, my new BE price will be $14.95

Thus, essentially breaking even on a deal gone bad.
I'd rather lose time than money. Although, I am losing out on money I could have earned during that unit of time, if the trade had not gone bad.

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Put_Master
 

Registered: May 2009
Posts: 1029

 

12-17-12 06:14 PM


Quote from Put_Master:

As an update....
This $17.5 WMS trade was put to me.
I then sold a $17.5 Jan covered call for $1.00
Today I closed the Jan covered call for $0.30, thus keeping $0.70.
Thus my current BE price is $16.50. (Put credit $0.30 and call credit $0.70)

I plan to sell a Jan $15 call if/when the credit pays $1.55
If the order is filled, my new BE price will be $14.95

Thus, essentially breaking even on a deal gone bad.
I'd rather lose time than money. Although, I am losing out on money I could have earned during that unit of time, if the trade had not gone bad.



Further update.... part 2:

Having closed my earlier one dollar, $17.5 Jan covered call trade above for $0.30 (keeping $0.70),... today I sold the Jan $15 covered call I discussed above for $1.50.

Hence, my new break even price, on this initial deterioating $17.50 naked put trade, is now $15.
If the stock is above $15 in Jan, my only loss will be the time I wasted, and my commissions.
A small price to pay for a trade gone bad.

If the stock is not excessively below $15 on exp day, I can still turn this trade into a profitable one, vs it's current BE status.

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