HOME FORUMS BROKERS SOFTWARE BOOKS CONTACT US
Elite Trader Your Account  •  Become a Member  •  Help  •  Search    
    Forums ›› Futures Trading ›› Financial Futures ›› spread ratio between contracts  


Post A Reply
    
saminny
 

Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 77

 

09-08-12 11:48 PM

I am confused on how to compute the spread ratio.

For example, this is example I came across with my broker -

Consider 2 contracts Bobl and Euribor.
The DV01 of Bobl i 44.8 and Euribor is 25. To equalize DV01, we need 44.8/25=1.792 contracts of Euribor for every 1 contract of Bobl.
However, tick sizes are different. 1 Bobl Tick is 10 Euros and similar Euribor tick is 25. So the ratio will be for 1 Bobl we need 1.79*(25/10) = 4.475 contracts of Euribor.

I understand DV01 sensitivity to compute the hedge ratio. However, I don't understand how is he using tick sizes. If he related tick sizes to basis points, it would have made more sense to me.


Does someone understand this?

Thanks

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
Martinghoul
 

Registered: Jan 2009
Posts: 5641

 

09-09-12 12:08 PM

Tick sizes are irrelevant. Ratio of DV01s is the only thing that matters. Using the Dec Bobl contract, you will get to a ratio of roughly 2.25 (56.5 vs 25).

P.S.: I also responded on your other thread.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
saminny
 

Registered: Jun 2008
Posts: 77

 

09-09-12 06:14 PM


Quote from Martinghoul:

Tick sizes are irrelevant. Ratio of DV01s is the only thing that matters. Using the Dec Bobl contract, you will get to a ratio of roughly 2.25 (56.5 vs 25).

P.S.: I also responded on your other thread.



Thanks for the reply and sorry for duplicate post as I lost my first post thought it didn't get posted.

Wouldn't the tick size matter if the contracts have different tick sizes in terms of basis points? But in this case, it seems they have the same tick size - 0.01 representing 1 basis point change. So I don't understand what the author of the article that I quoted is trying to do.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
Martinghoul
 

Registered: Jan 2009
Posts: 5641

 

09-09-12 06:21 PM


Quote from saminny:
Thanks for the reply and sorry for duplicate post as I lost my first post thought it didn't get posted.

Wouldn't the tick size matter if the contracts have different tick sizes in terms of basis points? But in this case, it seems they have the same tick size - 0.01 representing 1 basis point change. So I don't understand what the author of the article that I quoted is trying to do.


I have no idea what the author of your article is trying to do. Tick size is irrelevant (and it doesn't represent 1 basis point change every time). What matters is the contract spec, i.e. the notional and the underlying. The contract spec determines the DV01 of the contract and that's all you need. Tick size doesn't come into it.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
    
Post A Reply


Receive an email whenever a new post is added to this thread by subscribing to it.
 
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:
 

 

   Conduct Rules  -  Privacy Policy  -  Day Trader -  Day Trader Forum -  Best Trading Software -  Sitemap Copyright © 2013, Elite Trader. All rights reserved.    
 
WHILE YOU'RE HERE, TAKE A MINUTE TO VISIT SOME OF OUR SPONSORS:
Advantage Futures
Futures Brokerage & Clearing
AMP Global Clearing
Futures and FX Trading
Bright Trading
Professional Equities Trading
CTS
Futures Trading Software
DaytradingBias.com
Professional Trading Analytics
ECHOtrade
Professional Trading Firm
eSignal
Trading Software Provider
FXCM
Forex Trading Services
Global Futures
Futures, Options & FX Trading
Interactive Brokers
Pro Gateway to World Markets
JC Trading Group
Direct Access Trading
MB Trading
Direct Access Trading
MultiCharts
Trading Software Provider
NinjaTrader
Trading Software Provider
OANDA
Currency Trading
optionshouse
Option Trading & Education
Questrade
Canada's #1 Online Broker
Rithmic
Futures Trade Execution Platform
SpeedTrader
Direct Access Trading
SpreadProfessor
Spread Trading Instruction
thinkorswim by TD Ameritrade
Direct Access TradingAdvertisement
TradersStudio
System Building & Backtesting
Trading Technologies
Trading Software Provider
Trend Following
Trading Systems Provider