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jack hershey
 

Registered: Feb 2003
Posts: 7369

 

01-08-13 05:45 PM


Quote from Mr_You:

FYI, I've tried contacting you via PM to no avail...I've been curious how things have been going with MBTrading and NT and if you're still using Pay for Limits?

Well I can tell you that I started using an MBTrading demo this week and NT executing orders against its Sim101 account. Yes I am aware of the potential fundamental Sim101 issues here.

But even with this setup, position management seems completely broken beyond belief. I'll enable a strategy and suddenly its in a position, but the Positions tab has no entry. And there is no way to "clear" this position except until the strategy gets an exit signal. I understand there are some issues noted in the NT-MBTrading disclaimer (when you add the account connection), but this is beyond what is to be expected.

I'm using the latest software from both companies and the bottom line is its completely unusable. Its hard to believe that a brokers API that is only being used for a data feed has this much affect on NTs position management.

I'll give FXCM a shot next because this is unusable as is.

TLDR; MBTrading is unusable with NT automated strategies.



the MBT platform freezes if you make a mistake. All it tells you is that you made a mistake . You have to figure out what went wrong. I spent a weekend debugging my mind and wrote out how to not make mistakes.

If you get to trading using a master account and linking in subordinate accounts, then going flat by phone after a freeze up, the desk requires that you provide a lot of information serially. The desk also goes through "proving" the POA exists for each account; MBT does not have an orderly search process in thier shop. It can be time consuming. Finally, the desk has no "link in" capability; that is MBT cannot see from a master account what is linked in to it.

Since this was not an operating possibility for me, I did a "workaround" that is satisfactory for not having to go through "proving" anything and not knowing the linkages automatically. Result: No proving and automatic knowlege of linkages "outside" of the "system"; I am taken "flat" in a flash.

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Zardoz22
 

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 2

 

01-09-13 09:54 AM

Mr You:
If you look on the Tools/Options/Strategys menu and click the NinjaScript tab, you will see a radiobox choice of 'Wait Until Flat before executing live' and 'Immediatly Submit Live Working Orders'. These box's work in conjunction with the 'Sync Account Position T/F' choice in the 'Edit Strategy' menu that appears when you apply a strategy in the control center 'Strategys' area. Depending on the combination of these choices you get 4 different possible entry handling caracteristics with NinjaTrader.
Look in the help documentation with the keyword search 'Syncing Account Positions' for the combination that suits your goals

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EliteTraderNYC
 

Registered: Feb 2008
Posts: 178

 

01-10-13 10:11 PM

Hey, IB has a demo account or you can just eat the cost of the commissions until youre ready to go with big size or maybe u should try another NT compatible broker? I have another idea, why dont you run IB and the other one at the same time, see which one gives you better fills? Let us know.

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Mr_You
 

Registered: Dec 2010
Posts: 265

 

01-15-13 02:52 AM

Looks like these phantom orders have something to do with historical data influence. Doing the following or similar within OnBarUpdate() seems to clear it up:

code:
if (Historical) return;

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frostengine
 

Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 1215

 

01-28-13 03:43 AM

After 1440 trades, I am up about 500 pips.Its been a roller coaster of up and downs.

The good:
- Survived slippage and commission over the course of half a year and almost 1500 trades. That is challenging
- I am profitable, albeit only about 15% at my current leverage
- The 10 minute bar strategy appears relatively stable

The bad:
- Had a huge down swing the last week of December and first week of January. I think the fiscal "cliff"was partly to blame ending up on the wrong side a few times. Dropped around 10% during this time.
- Only being up 15% is not that reassuring considering I lost nearly 10% at end of year.
- My 4 range bar strategy is not performing so well. In fact, looking at the chart since starting back in July and I believe that strategy is due for retirement. Maybe I will do a 15 minute bar strategy to go with the 10 minute

A lot of work is still in front of me. I can see where I want to be and can tell that I am on the right track... If I was on the wrong track after 1500 trades I would not be net positive after commission and slippage.

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