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nysestocks
 

Registered: Dec 2008
Posts: 639

 

04-29-09 06:13 PM


Quote from aalluubbaa:

I cannot trade, PERIOD. For a long while, even when I was losing/not making money, I could find some "reasons" and try to make something positive out of it.

I started to day trade last year in a prop firm from febuary to june. Didn't really blow my 5k accout but had like 1 k left. I didn't feel all that happy but it was ok because i found out later that i got completely robbed by having a 1 dollar/100share commission. Ya, so buying and selling on 100 shares cost me 2 bucks!! I still managed to trade almost half a million shares during that half a year and not blowing my 5k completely.

I stopped trading for like half a year and found a few profitable traders to rent an office to trade. They were all formal Swifttrade traders. They are all contrarians!! I see them average down all the time and take small profits. Their winning percentage is extremely high like 80 to 90 percent. They scalp and average down and make money 8 out of 10 days. I don't like their method and I don't think I can trade their method because when i started to day trade, I trade trend and averaging UP.

Now I have no idea what is right and what is wrong!! I have to admit that i have no methods. Ya, it sounds pretty stupid but i just look at support and resistence and the market. If i feel that the market is ranging, i will go long on the support. So basically i make/lose money of rangin market and trend market.

This monday and tuesday i made some money real quick trading range. On wednesday, i traded range the first few times and traded trend because i "imagine" that the market will go up so i keep on going long whenever spy is breaking new highs. On thrusday i was scared of trading trend so i was picking bottom the entire time and had a rediculous 5% winning percentage. On Friday i was averaging down and died real fast.

The only thing mabbe im still "happy" is that there isnt a signle trade that killed me. its always a series of small losses without any winners.

Last night before i slept, i feel like i have be so confused and lost. Because i have no idea what to do. What i learned was to trade trend, and everyone in my trading room is trading "counter-trend" and make money every month!!

I looked at how they trade and i dont think i can learn from them. They hold on to "huge losses" and average more down. they have the discipline to make some money on "every pullback." I cant do either. They win almost every day but only when there is a stock going one direction without even a 10 precent pullback. Good thing about their max loss of the day is that they will be stopped out in days like that.

To me, their method do have an EDGE. But its an edge i cant learn. How the heck do i trade trend when every single one of my collegues r going counter-trends? And you know that they will make money this month and i am just a friggin noob.

I NEED SOME SERIOUS HELP. Any strategy that requires discipline of cutting small losses can fit into my tradying style.

Thanks for reading this long and dull post!



Use the box to save your socks!

Sorry for rhyme, but my mind is like chime.

Bye - Bye

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chrismontez
 

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 320

 

04-29-09 08:10 PM

"Dude, after you have a loss, no "hedging" is gonna save your ass. "

That's a pretty stupid statement if you have any actual experience using single stock futures and options.

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risktaker
 

Registered: May 2004
Posts: 2616

 

04-29-09 08:53 PM

How about you give it a try next time you have a loss. Less us know how your "hedge" works out!



Quote from chrismontez:

That's a pretty stupid statement if you have any actual experience using single stock futures and options.

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chrismontez
 

Registered: Oct 2007
Posts: 320

 

04-29-09 09:33 PM

"How about you give it a try next time you have a loss. Less us know how your "hedge" works out!"

On more than one occassion when IV is up , as a long stock position has started to move against me, I have shorted a dtm call for more than my entry price on the stock, either letting the stock get called away from me at a profit, or buying back the short call as the downtrend reversed. As long as the cost of carrying the position doesn't exceed currrent interest rates, you should come out ahead. Or when I've been short calls I have covered the shorts with stock purchased at a price less than the strike price plus premium I received.

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Mr_RC
 

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 26

 

08-30-10 01:38 PM


Quote from makloda:

Stop trading immediately. You don't know what you're doing, why piss away your money?



Simple, because you take it

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