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Swan Noir
 

Registered: Jun 2009
Posts: 1704

 

10-19-12 08:15 PM

Isn't the appeal of an LLC that it limits liability ... hence the name: Limited Liability Company?


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Just because 95% of people here are douches or trying to sell something doesn't mean I am. Once in a while I like to help people out becuase of people who have helped me in the past... I do have some LCD monitors I am selling on amazon however...

Reguarding the program being renewed for next year most likely it will. I actually lease a seat now so I don't utilize the program anymore but I still trade through my LLC for all exchanges except the KCBT becuase it only costs me $50 per year and adds some legitamacy to my business. Setting up an LLC is easier than filling out the CME Membership Application (at least in Colorado) so there is no reason to pay anyone to do it for you. The only exception would be if you are trying to keep you personal assetts seperate from your business's which it doesn't sound like you are trying to do.

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FroggerMan
 

Registered: Aug 2010
Posts: 137

 

10-19-12 08:30 PM

That is not what he is trying to acomplish in this situation.

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ExchangeBonds
 

Registered: Jan 2012
Posts: 175

 

10-19-12 08:35 PM

Yea, I'm not trying to limit my liability from trading losses. I just day trade, so am not worried about some major crash that puts me in bankruptcy. I don't leverage myself up that far, and I also believe the broker would probably just have me sign a form that I agree to back the llc financially, so I'm not going to worry about that. My main goal was to see if i could lower my trading fees while maintaining the preferential tax treatment.

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tiddlywinks
 

Registered: Mar 2007
Posts: 202

 

10-19-12 09:23 PM

The type of account does not determine the tax treatment of 1256 contracts. Therefore your concern of maintaining the tax treatment of 1256 contracts while trading through an entity is a non-issue.

What you failed to look at however is that a trading entity will incur additional expenses and taxes such as the dreaded self employment tax, currently 13.3%, set to increase in 2013 to 15.3%, and higher data fees as example.

You must run the numbers... additional costs (including entity setup and the ongoing entity accounting/legal/maintenance expenses) plus the additional taxes and fees versus the transaction cost savings.

On the plus side, an entity allows you to generate earned income, which means retirement plans, health insurance, and other "company" benefit plans and programs, along with associated tax benefits become available.

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