HOME FORUMS BROKERS SOFTWARE BOOKS CONTACT US
Elite Trader Your Account  •  Become a Member  •  Help  •  Search    
    Forums ›› Futures Trading ›› Financial Futures ›› Ryan Jones Book The Trading Game  


Post A Reply
    Page 4 of 4:   1  2  3   4  
HurricaneUS
 

Registered: Aug 2008
Posts: 749

 

03-12-13 03:08 PM

I sat in on a ryan jones teleconference and it smelled like putrid rank snakeoilism...it's was pretty sad to see because I thought his book was pretty good and opened my eyes to money management ideas

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
MarkBrown
 

Registered: Dec 2001
Posts: 989

 

03-12-13 03:14 PM


Quote from HurricaneUS:

I sat in on a ryan jones teleconference and it smelled like putrid rank snakeoilism...it's was pretty sad to see because I thought his book was pretty good and opened my eyes to money management ideas



i am strictly basing my opinions and comments on the book - i have made some money with it and i recommend the method with slight mods. example instead of backing down i don't in draw-down, it's faster to recover that way. if you have a high expectation system otherwise i would probably stay with original method. m

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
Ryan Jones
 

Registered: Feb 2013
Posts: 2

 

03-19-13 04:16 AM

Mark, I have noticed that traders in general on these message boards can be rude and outright slanderous. To some degree, it is understandable as there is a lot of misinformation and deceit in this industry. But there is no reason for outright lies. People read something and then take it completely out of context and make it to be something it is not. Publish anything and you are fair game for criticism. I don't mind, none of it changes how I trade.

Tango...are you talking about Oscar Goldman, way back in 2001? That was not my chat room, it was his. I parted ways with him as soon as I realized what I was dealing with. If that is not the one you are talking about, refresh my memory as I don't recall having a chat room where I called out trades.

Hurricane, tell me, which presentation did you view and what was it you didn't like about it?

All,

As for my options track record...I just hit 47 trades in a row before hitting a small loss today. Have not suffered a loss since July of last year. Real trades, not hypothetical. I have many, many subscribers who are witness to this. No, I never rolled any of them (to mask a loss which is what was inferred by one gentleman). I'll send the track record to whoever wants to see. And no, I'm not trying to sell it because it is full with a waiting list.

That doesn't mean everything I do is profitable. It certainly is not. I've had a small account I have been trying to ramp up for almost 2-years now trading one strategy and keep running into snags. I'm down about $300 over 2-years. I'm making progress with it though.

As for money management, I can easily prove that the Fixed Ratio method is far and away better than any Fixed fractional method. Give me any track record and I'll gladly post the results of applying both to the track record and it will be plain to see.

Finally, you won't find anyone in this industry that tells it like it is more than I do. I hammer on risks, on taking responsibilities for your actions and your trades. I trade everything I put out there.
I don't candy coat the risks...I have hundreds of letters from clients, long letters, not just a sentence or two giving a comment, stating this very fact. Anyone who says differently has never listened to me for any length of time. But instead, they see 47 winners in a row and they automatically think there is no way, this guy is full of it. I understand being cautious when you hear something like that, but to just make things up that support your opinion without having any facts.

I'm more than happy to answer any questions and start a real dialogue.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
tango29
 

Registered: May 2003
Posts: 979

 

03-19-13 01:29 PM

No, I believe his 1st name was Tim. I had an email from him I was going to post, but unfortunately must have been deleted at some point over the years.
I truly hope you and your subscribers are doing well, I simply presented my experience, and for me it was another learning point on my road in trading. I haven't bought any systems in a long time, or sat in a chatroom. So in a sense vendors were valuable to me in that I learned I needed to learn and develop my own system.

    Edit/Delete Quote Complain
    Page 4 of 4:   1  2  3   4  
Post A Reply


Receive an email whenever a new post is added to this thread by subscribing to it.
 
Rate This Thread:

Forum Jump:
 

 

   Conduct Rules  -  Privacy Policy  -  Day Trader -  Day Trader Forum -  Best Trading Software -  Sitemap Copyright © 2013, Elite Trader. All rights reserved.    
 
WHILE YOU'RE HERE, TAKE A MINUTE TO VISIT SOME OF OUR SPONSORS:
Advantage Futures
Futures Brokerage & Clearing
AMP Global Clearing
Futures and FX Trading
Bright Trading
Professional Equities Trading
CTS
Futures Trading Software
DaytradingBias.com
Professional Trading Analytics
ECHOtrade
Professional Trading Firm
eSignal
Trading Software Provider
FXCM
Forex Trading Services
Global Futures
Futures, Options & FX Trading
Interactive Brokers
Pro Gateway to World Markets
JC Trading Group
Direct Access Trading
MB Trading
Direct Access Trading
MultiCharts
Trading Software Provider
NinjaTrader
Trading Software Provider
OANDA
Currency Trading
optionshouse
Option Trading & Education
Rithmic
Futures Trade Execution Platform
SpeedTrader
Direct Access Trading
SpreadProfessor
Spread Trading Instruction
thinkorswim by TD Ameritrade
Direct Access TradingAdvertisement
TradersStudio
System Building & Backtesting
Trading Technologies
Trading Software Provider
Trend Following
Trading Systems Provider