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piezoe
 

Registered: Jan 2006
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04-04-12 11:19 PM


Quote from denner:

Let's just say I'm having a REALLY hard time believing the average tuition was $7800 in 2008. I'm sure it makes the numbers "work" to average in every university in the country, but it might be more realistic to average out the top 200 or 300 schools.

Private colleges and universities were charging roughly $40,000-$45,000 per year in tuition alone by 2008.



The data includes only the public colleges and universities, but it may not be much different for private. Public Institutions may have different constraints then private schools, particularly the upper echelon of well-endowed schools, which may choose to play the tuition game differently. Public institution tuition increased 44% over the ten year period ending 2008. Say private school tuition was 40K in 2008, then on average it would have been 28 K ten years earlier to be comparable. I have no data on the private schools however. The 44% increase over ten years in public universities actually lags consumer inflation over the same period by a small amount.

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trader56
 

Registered: Dec 2002
Posts: 480

 

04-04-12 11:22 PM


Quote from etile:

Do I think the student debt situation is outrageous on the aggregate level? Absolutely. However, my point is that on the individual level the situation is still very manageable for the prudent student. Is it a win-win situation, far from it.

Personally I think the spigot on the easy money for student loans needs to get lopped off. Private student loans should be able to be discharged in bankruptcy. Why private finance institutions should be able to charge a premium over federal student loans and receive the same level of default protection is ridiculous.

Public school systems are still relatively affordable. The UC system is still, relatively, cheap. Although I admit the tuition rate hikes are absurd over the last few years.



I agree with a lot of your post. The problem is that with the vast majority of for-profit type students you can rule out the "prudent" descriptor.

These for-profits target, specifically, a lower-income, financially unsophisticated population. These "schools" advertise on TV shows like Maury, and all those Judge Whatever concoctions. They know exactly who they're going after, and it's NOT the people who are candidates for State colleges and universities. For-profits compete with each other, not state colleges.

They are promising jobs galore in fields that pay $12-15 an hour to start, and in most cases are unlikely to rise more than a few dollars an hour. Here in the Midwest, Medical Assistants, for example, start at around $14 an hour. Very few, without additional training, can look forward to making more than $16 dollars an hour or so.

I'd agree that a degree from the UC system or most State colleges and universities is worth pursuing, depending of course, upon the program. But for-profits? Almost always, no.

Ok, I'll stop ranting now; my apologies, and thanks for everyone's indulgence!

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