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newwurldmn
 

Registered: Apr 2011
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09-24-12 02:04 AM


Quote from sle:

Of course I am contradicting you. Probability of OP getting some un-X calls is about 1:10, like everyone else. If you are a long a 100k, chances are 8-10k are not gonna get X-ed, if you do it every expiration. There is no real difference if you sell a large block or bleed them out 1 lot at a time. You just have to be short enough contracts. The main limitation in this trade is the balance sheet cost, which is why most people involved in these trades are bank prop desks.

PS. Explain to me the whole attitude thing here - aren't we here to learn from each other? If I am contradicting someone or arguing, it's because it kinda helps to know what's true and what is not, what works and what does not.



Execution costs (commission and bid/offer) are an issue too.

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donnap
 

Registered: Sep 2006
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09-24-12 02:30 AM


Quote from sle:

...I am contradicting you.



OP is trading 100s. Hence, not likely.

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jtrader33
 

Registered: Jun 2005
Posts: 285

 

09-24-12 05:36 AM


Quote from sle:

On large ETFs, a fair number of people forgets/forgoes early-X, e.g. on SPYs it's about 8-10% of total position that do not get early X-ed.



Not to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're implying that the % is higher in ETFs than single names. Assuming that's true, is it fair to say there's a higher proportion of unsophisticated players in ETF options (vs. stocks)? I'd believe it...same way everyone wants to jump into ES futures starting out.

Are these stats readily available somewhere or is that number based on experience?

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