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oldtime
 

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10-29-12 07:07 PM


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Very true! It hasn't changed since Colonial time as far as who is in charge. For the 1 and 3/4 century of Crown rule and now a little over two centuries of independence the same folks have always been in charge -- the wealthy.

The wealthy have accepted the existence of a middle class as inevitable and even desirable as a bulwark against the threat of the dispossessed. In Colonial days an alliance between the indentured whites, the negro slave, and the Indians was feared, and laws were passed forbidding fraternizing. Today, the ruling class should probably be somewhat more concerned than they appear to be that their buffer, the middle class, may become too small to be effective against a growing anarchist movement and a swelling dispossessed population.

what was that Thomas Jefferson said? "Every now and then you just need a full blown bloody revolution."

As for me personally, I'm willing to donate it at the local blood bank to help my fellow man, but I'm not so sure I'm ready to spill it for my beliefs which upon further review may be somewhat questionable.

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ZapCoffee
 

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10-29-12 07:16 PM


Quote from oldtime:

what was that Thomas Jefferson said? "Every now and then you just need a full blown bloody revolution."

As for me personally, I'm willing to donate it at the local blood bank to help my fellow man, but I'm not so sure I'm ready to spill it for my beliefs which upon further review may be somewhat questionable.



People think ideology is worth dying for; a dead man has no ideals.

Why not just move then to wherever your ideals are the most active? EG -- USA turns communist.. move to Hong Kong. USA decides to involve itself in WW3 -- move to a neutral country.

There's never a need to die! It's a tribal instinct left over from when we were in tribes.. from before we even became human. Evolution selects not for you, but for your individual genes. So, you have naturally selected genes that actually are actually bad for you. Imagine gene x present in every member of a tribe. Gene x gets you killed; but by killing you, gene x gets live in on through other peoples' reproduction, and so reproduces itself.

Evolutionary-speaking, you're just a container for your genes. Your individual genes don't care which container makes them a new container, as long as some container does. So, they'll destroy your container if it helps them live in a different container.

Are you a slave to your genes and ready to die for them, a byproduct of evolution from when we were no smarter than apes? Or are you a human capable of using your mind to preserve yourself as an individual?

Sadly, most people aren't able to overcome their tribal instincts and allow gene x to kill them. Think patriotism.

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oldtime
 

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10-29-12 07:26 PM


Quote from ZapCoffee:

People think ideology is worth dying for; a dead man has no ideals.

Why not just move then to wherever your ideals are the most active? EG -- USA turns communist.. move to Hong Kong. USA decides to involve itself in WW3 -- move to a neutral country.

There's never a need to die! It's a tribal instinct left over from when we were in tribes.. from before we even became human. Evolution selects not for you, but for your individual genes. So, you have genes that actually are actually bad for you. Imagine gene x present in every member of a tribe. Gene x gets you killed; but by killing you, gene x gets live in on through other peoples' reproduction, and so reproduces itself.

Are you a slave to your genes and ready to die for them, a byproduct in evolution from when we were no smarter than apes? Or are you a human capable of using your mind to preserve yourself as an individual?

Sadly, most people aren't able to overcome their tribal instincts and allow gene x to kill them.

yeah, we already kind of did that. Got knocked out of Bulgaria, then Austria, then Russia, and of course Germany. Finally not even England or USA would take any more of us.

So we ended up in Israel. And that's where we are going to stay.

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ZapCoffee
 

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10-29-12 07:29 PM


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yeah, we already kind of did that. Got knocked out of Bulgaria, then Austria, then Russia, and of course Germany. Finally not even England or USA would take any more of us.

So we ended up in Israel. And that's where we are going to stay.



You're you -- you don't have to be 'we'.

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oldtime
 

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10-29-12 07:41 PM


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You're you -- you don't have to be 'we'.

yeah, that's what you all say

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