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ElectricSavant
 

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 14844

 

12-29-11 08:52 PM

I found this out in the public Domain.

super money grid.mq4
This has been downloaded 548 time(s).

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ElectricSavant
 

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 14844

 

12-29-11 08:52 PM

This EA illustrates a grid without any indicators with a mindless progression of trades throughout a range.


Below is the monthly chart of the EUR/GBP showing the dates from 09/01/1990 to the date of this post.


  • Notice that on 12/01/08 a high was realized of 0.9800.
  • Notice that on 05/01/2001 a low was realized of 0.5680.

This instrument has seen a range of 4,120 PIPS over the last 21 years and is currently trading towards the
high end of the range roughly 1400 or 1500 pips away from the all time high.

What does this mean for the Super Money Grid EA ?

If your grid space is 15 PIPS that would mean that you should prepare for 275 open positions. 1:500 leverage for
you global traders would equate to about $500.00 of margin cost. If the balance of the trades were all one
direction then maybe 1K of margin would be needed.

The nature of the super money grid is to keep trading the back and forth movements and to realize profit during
the carry. This profit from the movement should exceed the cost of carry and allowing for the entire historical
range should net you 50-100% yield per year with a reasonable risk.

The biggest risk is if the EURO collapes..or your dealer takes off with your capital. A secondary risk is if 4,120 PIPS
of range is exceeded (this would take several years and you could add capital if needed).

If my math is correct. Start capital of two to three thousand USD per dealer with 1:500 leverage could net you a
nice income, considering this is a set & forget type of investment.

My math is based upon 10 cent a pip trade sizes without martingale or other progression and a grid size of 15
and a tp of 15.

Would some of the mathematicians check my math and correct me where I am wrong please? Remember some
offshore dealers treat longs and shorts as one trade, so when calculating your FXMath take that into account.


eurgbp monthly.gif
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ElectricSavant
 

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 14844

 

12-29-11 10:52 PM

This sentence quoted below may be incorrect. As I watch the Super Money Grid trade, It uses
another routine than I originally thought. All of the trades are not spaced 15 PIPs apart.
There are more trades than that...

I think what is happening is when it goes to the short swing it closes out some sells...and leaves the
buys open... then on its way back up it starts the 15 PIP grid again, which is out of synch comapared to
where the open trades were left.

Well...anyways you guys have the code and maybe you can figure it out and post.


If your grid space is 15 PIPS that would mean that you should prepare for 275 open positions.

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Zr1Trader
 

Registered: Dec 2010
Posts: 1538

 

12-29-11 10:58 PM

Does this method usually have a large unrealized loss? Would something like this survive a may 6th 2010?
Never dabbled or really looked too far into grid methods but they look interesting none the less.

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ElectricSavant
 

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 14844

 

12-29-11 10:59 PM

Well I took the highest and the lowest of the last 21 years zr....

If you put 2 or 3k in and use 0.01...well theoretically you could survive..assuming you are offshore with 1:500.

My earlier tests saw no more than 30% drawdown on a 1K
account with a 10 pip grid and TP...since then I goosed it to 2K
and made it a 15 PIP grid and TP and decided to post
it here for input.

The mathematicians here can get it down to the penny with their calculations...
I did all of this in my head and my experience. (HeHe maybe thats where it will fail ☺)

Right now there are 10 open positions after a few hours and it has banked 1/4 of 1% of 2K.

ElectricLostHisHomeinTheHamptonsSavant

P.S. anyways I hope you folks find this to be a good read
and that you get some inspiration from it...kinda like porn...

P.P.S. I got a lot more stuff that I waste my time with
if you guys like this sort of stuff. I got about 5000 EA's that I
have not even made a dent in.



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Does this method usually have a large unrealized loss? Would something like this would survive a may 6th 2010? Never dabbled or really looked too far into grid methods but they look interesting none the less.

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ElectricSavant
 

Registered: Jan 2003
Posts: 14844

 

12-29-11 11:43 PM

It would have been banking a lot of profits on that kind of
bar (May 6th 2010) I suspect.

This is not a martingale or progression...and can survive
more swings than that one day...it can go for years
banking profits and if the math is right it can be self-
sustaining if you do not want to withdraw profits I suspect.

Deep Pockets is what it takes and good FX math (and a longer forward test).

ES

P. S. Here is the question...could you tolerate making
50% a year for 21 years and never trade again...?
just check in to your EA's at the different dealers
from time-to-time? (If it were only that easy)



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Does this method usually have a large unrealized loss? Would something like this survive a may 6th 2010?
Never dabbled or really looked too far into grid methods but they look interesting none the less.

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