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ammo
 

Registered: Feb 2007
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10-02-12 12:01 AM


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So what do you do when you get contradicting indicators?

I'm looking at a AAPL september 27th candle and it appears to be bullish engulfing...then next day its a bear harami.

This is one example, but I'm curious about what you guys look at next when your initial indicators are contradictory? To me is seems choppy and that would be a sign to just hold pat.

Thanks

market trades in bell curves ,if the 642 doesnt hold then we drop to the next bell, wide spot of support is 606 area, if it does hold we retest the 667 wide spot of the present bell..you can use the candles ,tls small timeframes to pinball around on the moves between

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Paddler
 

Registered: Nov 2011
Posts: 256

 

10-02-12 03:49 AM


Quote from Nutinsider:

I THINK you are saying "ignore the noise" and just grind the nuts and bolts, right?

I totally agree with that, and I suppose I am simply trying to determine what is noise and what isnt. I guess most TA would fall under the category of non noise because it isnt as biased?

Im really not sure, but I'm still reading a lot and attempting to get a better feel of the markets. Regardless, thanks for the response.


Please, you are not supposed to understand his writing unless you are invited to his private circle. He just labelled all ET members as takers except himself. Don't fuck around with this hypocrite.

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Trendylines
 

Registered: Sep 2011
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10-02-12 05:32 AM

Too bad, I was just beginning to enjoy the discussions

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Handle123
 

Registered: Aug 2007
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10-02-12 05:52 AM


Quote from Nutinsider:

So what do you do when you get contradicting indicators?

I'm looking at a AAPL september 27th candle and it appears to be bullish engulfing...then next day its a bear harami.

This is one example, but I'm curious about what you guys look at next when your initial indicators are contradictory? To me is seems choppy and that would be a sign to just hold pat.

Thanks



I don't use candles per se in intraday or daily/weekly unless it is used as in special situation pattern trading. I am not saying they don't work, but when I started trading, only used bars for a number of years before they came out, so I am more use to just regular bar charts and the patterns they make.

AAPL looked very toppy on highs slightly over 700.00 as volume was less than previous highs, MACD or TSI were showing a slowing down on both weekly/daily charts, plus a Doji at the highs per the weekly, I view it as it should go lower.

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oraclewizard77
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Registered: Jan 2006
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10-02-12 06:06 AM

A Doji is a candle.


Quote from Handle123:

I don't use candles per se in intraday or daily/weekly unless it is used as in special situation pattern trading. I am not saying they don't work, but when I started trading, only used bars for a number of years before they came out, so I am more use to just regular bar charts and the patterns they make.

AAPL looked very toppy on highs slightly over 700.00 as volume was less than previous highs, MACD or TSI were showing a slowing down on both weekly/daily charts, plus a Doji at the highs per the weekly, I view it as it should go lower.

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kut2k2
 

Registered: May 2005
Posts: 3148

 

10-02-12 08:20 AM


Quote from Nutinsider:

So what do you do when you get contradicting indicators?

I'm looking at a AAPL september 27th candle and it appears to be bullish engulfing...then next day its a bear harami.

This is one example, but I'm curious about what you guys look at next when your initial indicators are contradictory? To me is seems choppy and that would be a sign to just hold pat.

Thanks

Any indicator that gives me a buy signal at one time and a sell signal the very next time step is worthless IMO. I never saw the value in using candles for myself but I'm in no position to say they don't have value to somebody else. I just ignore any indicators that ever whipsaw me. My only other universal rule on indicators is:

If your indicator needs confirmation, then you need a better indicator.

As always, YMMV.

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