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R. Raskolnikov
 

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10-02-12 03:52 AM

Damn Pareto's law


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20% of the population causes 80% of health care spending

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brokerboy
 

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10-02-12 03:56 AM

http://www.wtfu2012.com/

a little humor wtfu

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
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10-02-12 04:05 AM


Quote from R. Raskolnikov:

Damn Pareto's law



Hey, don't forget that it's about 20% of Americans who self-identify as "liberal", too.

Damn skippy they cause 80% of the problems with their infernal yappin' about something or other.

Get rid of that 20%, there go 80% of the "problems". Now that's what I call "problem solving".

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denner
 

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10-02-12 09:18 AM


Quote from logic_man:

Hey, don't forget that it's about 20% of Americans who self-identify as "liberal", too.

Damn skippy they cause 80% of the problems with their infernal yappin' about something or other.

Get rid of that 20%, there go 80% of the "problems". Now that's what I call "problem solving".



Yes, indeed.

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AK Forty Seven
 

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10-02-12 11:35 AM


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20% of the population causes 80% of health care spending (excluding end of life spending).



Why exclude end of life spending ? What are the numbers if you include end of life spending ?

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
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10-02-12 01:40 PM


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Why exclude end of life spending ? What are the numbers if you include end of life spending ?



The reason I exclude it is because it isn't someone's fault they need a lot of care right at the end, it is just the natural consequence of old age, should one reach it. Personally, I would prefer that, rather than Medicare, that care be privately financed by individuals and families, but that view, although logical, is the minority view in a country where the majority often has its views enacted into law.

What I called for looking at is the rest of the spending, which is driven by lifestyle choices made by people who are irresponsible. When you exclude that spending, the US does just fine.

Basically, calls for "universal health care" that aren't accompanied by calls for "universal rational behavior" are moronic. Since you'll never get "universal rational behavior", there's no sense in "universal health care". The alternative is to have people's lives micromanaged like Bloomberg is trying to do in NYC. Since that level of micromanagement is unsustainable, I prefer to just not have "universal health care".

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