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Chuck E. Cheese
 

Registered: Mar 2012
Posts: 115

 

10-01-12 10:16 PM

Anyone got anything on this one? I currently have a long position open (been trying to average down via buying the dip and sell some against the rally).

I've done some research and my take is the company has some future but the stock is one of the favorite for the bears as it went from $79 to $11 and the management has diluted the shares through several acquisitions and financing so the share count went from 50 mill to 120 mill (but the company is now is more diverse and more intergrated as well).

I'm expecting some more pain ahead here but the risk and reward is well worth the bet at this price. I believe that this is a long term play, but I'm concern that the bears could take this down another couple bucks. Buying miners is not exactly the smartest play, I know. But I expect this one to pay off.

Your thoughts are welcome.

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billyjoerob
 

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 688

 

10-01-12 10:52 PM

See you sub-$5. This is a turd.

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NoDoji
 

Registered: May 2008
Posts: 8107

 

10-01-12 10:56 PM

Wow, what's wrong with them? I really like the insider buying around this price and the high short interest.

I will buy some and then you won't die alone

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billyjoerob
 

Registered: Jul 2009
Posts: 688

 

10-01-12 11:22 PM

Once these cult stocks crash, they usually just fade away. The party's over. IMO

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Chuck E. Cheese
 

Registered: Mar 2012
Posts: 115

 

10-01-12 11:54 PM

My entry has been average around $11.30ish (not full position) so no significant loss to write home about.

My issue is insiders cashed out 20 million shares or $ 1 billion during height or RE bubble. Now they're buying back in at $10 for only a few million shares (not including purchases made by Molybdenum Metales SA). It might seem that they're only trying to instill confident but nothing else.

Short interest now is about 25% whereas in the past it was as high as 40% percent. I used to short stocks before and my opinion is this is not a good short in comparison to NFLX, GMCR or FB etc...I suspect the shorts are just momentum players.

I've been doing my homework on the company and the share price is now even below book value. With NFLX, the price to book value ratio is over 4 and that company has more liabilities than assets.

Most of the argument against the stock has been the glut of RE flooding the market and crashing the price to the point of making the miners bleeding cash to death. But in reality, MCP's goal is to be a low cost RE producer on par (or lower) than Chinese prices and they have other products mix than just simply RE. Plus, they haven't fully operational yet, so it's too early to be the judge on them (But WS seem to like worthless tech stocks more than undervalued miners).

The fundamentals is not bad, but how often do stocks move on that? I will continue to average down via selling on weak rally and buying on the sell off to get a better buy in price.

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Whistlingleaf
 

Registered: Nov 2005
Posts: 293

 

10-02-12 08:35 AM

I think MCP is too hard to figure - (I have owned it and made some money via CC's, but was happy to get called away.)

I think you'd be better off in ACI & ANR - still have lots of option premium and more upside then downside IMO

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