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Pekelo
 

Registered: Aug 2005
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09-05-12 04:27 AM


Quote from PlinytheTrader:


So to me if I was running a company, the best option is still #2



Sure, I agree that those are the options, but as I already explained, different groups have different interests. So you will always find a group preferring one of those options.

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Random.Capital
 

Registered: Jan 2005
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09-05-12 04:51 AM


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So very early investors could make 20-30$ before the decline started...



They shouldn't have been able to make anything on that stock.

That they did is merely an indication of how well the fleecers did their jobs.

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cdcaveman
 

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09-05-12 07:36 AM

Livermoore said it .... stocks are put up to be sold to the public.... its just debt financing... they averaged down from 38 instead of 34. Big deal... seems like there is a lot of lost money out there in this trade. From the public that is... that's the only sure bet I would make

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the1
 

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09-05-12 07:34 PM

I will concede that in the eyes of the public FB has a bit of a black eye but time will heal this wound. There is a day in the future when FB will be trading above $38 per share and all will be forgotten. And their initial offering of $38 is low, relative to, say....GOOG's IPO back in the day. I realize they are different businesses with differing fundamentals but on a per share basis 38 bucks isn't high.


Quote from PlinytheTrader:

You are not looking at the entire picture. When most companies go public their goal is not to maximize the share price and screw over anyone left buying their new stock on the open market, but rather somewhere in the middle. Early investors need to get a good price to cash out at, but you still need to keep the IPO low enough so its attractive to the public and it can get a decent pop on the open. A public company should want to have good relations with their investors and as well as a popular stock to own in the eyes of the market. As of now, most investors hate Facebook and would never touch the stock because of how their IPO went, and Facebook will have an extremely difficult time if they ever want to try and raise money in the future.

The notion of it being a good thing that Facebook screwed over the common investor is idiotic. You can't look at an IPO like it's a basic stock trade and say buy low sell hi, unless the company's plan from the beginning was to just pump and dump and that they think the company is a sinking ship. I am not defending facebook, in fact I can't stand the company, but the only reason investors are calling for Zuckerberg to step down is because they are down 50% in the stock and not because he is a bad CEO (jury is still out on that one).

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shopster
 

Registered: Jul 2011
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10-09-12 09:37 PM


Quote from the1:

on a per share basis 38 bucks isn't high.



you confuse a share price perceived value with a bankster IPO retail scam number.

fail.

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cdcaveman
 

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10-09-12 09:50 PM


Quote from shopster:

you confuse a share price perceived value with a bankster IPO retail scam number.

fail.



current trend is down.. still selling off shares to public.. lock up isn't finished.. who the freak knows what happens further out then that.. to say that its going to be worth something over even 28 bucks says you believe they are going to make sense financially of their user base. NO ONE knows that.. i'd be more likely to see upside risk if there were even clues to zzuckerbuck monetizing his traffic.. paying to get up on peoples news status is a mess.. i still am a doubter on this one.. this was so pumped and dumped even before it hit the public..

+1 on retail scam... still selling down share price to public.. diluation! retailers living on HOPIUM..

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