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SPY, long or short?
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Buy 10 33.33%
Sell 20 66.67%
Total: 30 votes 100%
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kjones5159
 

Registered: Aug 2012
Posts: 134

 

08-26-12 03:25 AM

Then again, what's it worth if I lose 50% before I double up, nothing. Rollercoaster ride to nowhere.


One mistake I'll never make again if nothing else, that's for sure.

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cdcaveman
 

Registered: Aug 2011
Posts: 3518

 

08-26-12 03:35 AM


Quote from kjones5159:

Then again, what's it worth if I lose 50% before I double up, nothing. Rollercoaster ride to nowhere.


One mistake I'll never make again if nothing else, that's for sure.



your feelings work against you sometimes...there is money to be made in vix derivatives .. just not outright exposing yourself to contango/super roll cost.. one thing you can do is go into the vix options and put ratio backspreads in the options and get similar long volatility exposure without the roll cost doing you in... you roll it yourself.. roll one ratio backspread from one month to the next.. do it for credits even.. the etf products were a wall st invention to attract retail money.. they make .85 percent for what probably amounts to a automated algo sell front month buy backmonth in quanities every day... these ETF's are for the people that don't wanna look a little deeper into the mechanics of futures and options trading.. and frankly if your not willing to do that.. dont' trade anything with the vix name on it..

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kjones5159
 

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08-26-12 04:06 AM

Cdcaveman I'm gonna PM you to stop hijacking this thread.

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cdcaveman
 

Registered: Aug 2011
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08-26-12 04:54 AM

High jacking



.... I'm just talking. Ignore me if you like.... I didn't think my post was much of a tangent

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FreakofNature
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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08-26-12 05:21 AM


Quote from RangeTrader:


I'm not a trend trader.



We know, you are a flavor of the day type of trader, today's flavor is lunacy aka lunar cycles.

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cdcaveman
 

Registered: Aug 2011
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08-26-12 05:47 AM


Quote from FreakofNature:

We know, you are a flavor of the day type of trader, today's flavor is lunacy aka lunar cycles.

haha good one

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