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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
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08-24-12 04:27 AM


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Those are stock firms you mentioned, not futures. And no, good directional traders don't have the same chance as spread traders. Most prop firms today rely very heavily on technology and high frequency trading. A guy who simply trades direction does not fit in well with the strengths of most prop firms.

I laid down a challenge to peternam on here to call around the various prop firms and see who would hire a pure directional trader and he never reported back to us. I already knew what the answer was.

If you want to trade direction, your best bet is to start a CTA.



Do existing CTAs hire outsiders to trade for them? Can I go to a CTA and get hired to trade direction or does every directional guy start his own CTA and do it his way?

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Maverick74
 

Registered: Mar 2002
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08-24-12 05:15 AM


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Do existing CTAs hire outsiders to trade for them? Can I go to a CTA and get hired to trade direction or does every directional guy start his own CTA and do it his way?



Yes, CTA's allocate capital to outside CTA's all the time but not without a track record. You need to have your own CTA and usually a 3 year track record. I can't think of any CTA that would just hire a guy to trade for him because the CTA is tied to his name. Which means if you blow it up, your simply an AP (associated person) to the CTA. He is stuck with the track record and he CANNOT get rid of it. All CTA's must report their most recent 5 years of performance to investors. No CTA will take that risk. So what he would do it allocate capital to your existing CTA which you set up. Hope that makes sense.

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Jack_Larkin
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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08-24-12 05:21 AM


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Maverick74
 

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08-24-12 05:24 AM


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You're 6 months late to this thread dude. Just a heads up.

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Jack_Larkin
 

Registered: Jun 2011
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08-24-12 05:59 AM


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You're 6 months late to this thread dude. Just a heads up.



:P Just enjoyed the banter..tiz all

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logic_man
 

Registered: Oct 2010
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08-24-12 08:39 AM


Quote from Maverick74:

Yes, CTA's allocate capital to outside CTA's all the time but not without a track record. You need to have your own CTA and usually a 3 year track record. I can't think of any CTA that would just hire a guy to trade for him because the CTA is tied to his name. Which means if you blow it up, your simply an AP (associated person) to the CTA. He is stuck with the track record and he CANNOT get rid of it. All CTA's must report their most recent 5 years of performance to investors. No CTA will take that risk. So what he would do it allocate capital to your existing CTA which you set up. Hope that makes sense.



Yes, that makes sense. The CTA might sub-contract out to you, but as the "general contractor", he wants to see a 3-year track record of your own CTA.

Now, can you be a CTA without actually advising anyone, just trading your own capital? If I set up a CTA structure, but only trade my own account, rather than go through the hassle of raising money, that still gives me the ability to report a 3-year track record, right? Can I set up a CTA and then use prior year's records?

I'm sure there's a web link which explains all this, but if you know the answer off-hand (or have a good link), that would be helpful.

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