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sj8070
 

Registered: Nov 2010
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08-09-12 07:30 PM

have been following this thread with interest.

could you please clarify for the non-techy (can't sift through your code) what the triggers / parameters are for your trading ...
in terms of concepts... no need to be specific if you dont want to]

I also like your approach- totally deconstructing a clear non-random event into a tradeable strategy

rgds

Seb

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PetaDollar
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08-10-12 04:53 AM

Hi Seb, it's a collection of very simple price action and time constraints. Many I learned from years of screen watching and discretionary trading. Others come from remarks my elementary-school aged kid made after looking at a chart. What I didn't realize is once they're all rolled together, they make quite a formidable trading machine.

Here's one example. At one time I was trading breakouts on the YM (mini-DOW futures). It was profitable, but I noticed a certain recurring event that would always result in the maximum loss for the trade. This was the old "false breakout" when I'd get just one or two ticks triggering my stop entry, followed by a fast, aggressive move in the opposite direction, right into my stop exit. Maximum loss with no time to react. Why not go with a market entry once a breakout is confirmed? Well, for me personally (too emotional), I'd lose less money by lighting a wad of cash on fire each day and walking away.

So.. here's how the breakout entry code works. First, there's the breakout price. Once we hit the breakout price, the clock starts. We look to see if price retraces a certain amount to the "cancel" price. Once the clock finishes, if we didn't hit the "cancel" price, we put in a limit order entry. The limit order price is independent of the other two prices (breakout and cancel). The total clock time is another parameter. By playing with the parameters, I've been able to shape all kinds of different breakout entries/behaviors. I do an enjoyable exercise where I look at the chart from the day's trading and see how parameter tweaks may have changed the results for the better. I look at the price action and see if there's anything out there to capture.

I guess we'll know a few months from now if it all works.

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1a2b3cppp
 

Registered: Sep 2008
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08-10-12 06:13 AM

Looking forward to seeing how you do. Good luck!

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PetaDollar
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08-15-12 03:53 AM

Mini-update:


  • Last week net was about +10 NQ points ($200), 1 contract
  • This week so far (Mon + Tues) is about even
  • I really need to whip something up to process all those lovely xml output files! Annotated chart + results.
  • On the systems side, everything is running smoothly
  • Transferring more cash in to trade more contracts
  • I'm now using the Java Logger class for logs. It's very easy... just add a "private static final" logger to each relevant class, and each instance can call the static logger. E.g. logger.info("submitting entry") gets you a timestamp, calling class, and calling method along with your message. With Linux I just direct the output to the log file "> out.txt 2>&1".

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PetaDollar
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08-15-12 02:03 PM

I'm selling NQ today... any resistance at yesterday's close (= pre-market high) and breakout of the pre-market lows.

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PetaDollar
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08-15-12 03:11 PM

Trouble: the program moved the stops up right away after the short entry. This doesn't happen in the automated tests, so it should be interesting to find the problem. (And learn something new about testing ) I've added some logging to the StopMover class so we can see what it's thinking. Re-running to short the highs thus far, just one trade. The stops will move up right away but I'll have a good log which will help the debugging.

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