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AK Forty Seven
 

Registered: Jul 2010
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07-27-12 02:08 AM


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Most of the military budget is for pay and benefits of both active duty and retirees



Wrong

If you're going to be a military industrial complex supporter at least learn the facts.Military Personnel and housing is only 158 billion a year


Most military spending is operations and maintenance,procurement,and research.In other words wars,policeing the world and defense contractors



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futurecurrents
 

Registered: May 2002
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07-27-12 02:46 AM


Quote from AK Forty Seven:

With no do respect Hail Hitler,we were doing just fine when Clinton was spending only 297 billion a year on defense

We haves nukes and 50 % of US households have guns,this country is safe spending 200-300 billion on defense.Our problem is neo cons who want the US to police the world , start a war any chance they get and give hundreds of billions to defense contractors



+1

It is almost beyond comprehension that Romney wants to increase spending.

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Mav88
 

Registered: Aug 2008
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07-27-12 03:43 AM


With no do respect Hail Hitler,we were doing just fine when Clinton was spending only 297 billion a year on defense

We haves nukes and 50 % of US households have guns,this country is safe spending 200-300 billion on defense.Our problem is neo cons who want the US to police the world , start a war any chance they get and give hundreds of billions to defense contractors



Haiti, Bosnia, and Serbia was all Bill Clinton - try reading sometime you ignoramius... then 9/11. We had hollowed out the military by then and had to increase its size.

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Mav88
 

Registered: Aug 2008
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07-27-12 03:49 AM


Wrong

If you're going to be a military industrial complex supporter at least learn the facts.Military Personnel and housing is only 158 billion a year


Most military spending is operations and maintenance,procurement,and research.In other words wars,policeing the world and defense contractors



Amazing, just amazing display of rank stupidity. Whatever you paid for education, get it back:




Personnel Costs : Personnel-related costs consume 45 percent of the base defense budget, or $250 billion in FY 2012. Some $181 billion of this is for pay, allowances, retirement pay, healthcare, and other expenses for military personnel. The remaining $70 billion covers the cost of DoD civilian personnel (not including contractors) and is spread across the other titles of the budget. The FY 2012 budget provides a 1.6 percent increase in basic pay for military personnel as well as a 4.2 percent increase in the allowance for housing and a 3.4 percent increase in the allowance for subsistence. DoD civilian personnel, like all other federal employees, do not receive a pay increase in FY 2012.



comptroller.defense.gov/fmr/02b/02barch/CHAPTER08.PDF

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Mav88
 

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07-27-12 03:53 AM


+1

It is almost beyond comprehension that Romney wants to increase spending.



what's beyond comprehension is that you think you know something



However, total national defense spending as a percent of GDP (measured using outlays rather than budget authority) is 4.7 percent in the FY 2012 budget request, below the post-World War II average of 6.3 percent. When measured as a fraction of overall federal government spending, national defense funding is 19 percent of the FY 2012 request, compared to an average level of 21 percent since FY 1976. Together, these three metrics indicate that defense spending is at a high level by historical standards but is affordable given the size of the U.S. economy and is consistent with modern-day norms as a portion of overall federal spending.


comptroller.defense.gov/fmr/02b/02barch/CHAPTER08.PDF

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AK Forty Seven
 

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07-27-12 04:06 AM


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Most of the military budget is for pay and benefits of both active duty and retirees, that can't be cut.




From your quote


"Some $181 billion of this is for pay, allowances, retirement pay, healthcare, and other expenses for military personnel"




Do you understand that 181 billion is not most of the 686 billion a year military budget ?


Whatever you paid for your education you should get it back.You should also sue for damages for making you such a dumb ass.

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