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Dunstan
 

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 136

 

07-26-12 01:19 PM

Hi everyone,

The next market that has been mentioned in this „COT review” was the Feeder Cattle, because the second largest change in Commercials positions happened here.

Not only was the change size significant, but if you look at the chart you can see that the whole COT picture is pretty extreme.

I have indicated 4 places on the price chart which coincide with extremes in the COT.

I would like to draw your attention here to the fact that on this market Small Speculators should be considered differently, because a lot of them are actually Commercial players, they just don’t reach CFTC’s reporting limits.

If you don’t feel comfortable to trade futures, don’t forget that these days there are other great instruments as well --> ETFs. This page I found has a list of them. You can trade them like stocks!

Have a nice day,
Dunstan

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007Arb
 

Registered: Feb 2004
Posts: 140

 

07-26-12 07:18 PM

Beginning in the very early 90s, I used the COT extensively while trading the stock index futures but threw it out long, long ago. You may want to read an article by Howard Simons in the June 1998 issue of Futures magazine. He counters the argument of the vendoring industry that trading on the COT is potentially lucrative. While he was only looking at one market, I tend to agree that it is just another overhyped indicator. Also long ago I use to montior the analysis of the COT guru (seems every indicator has its own guru) and was not impressed in the least.
Can't say it won't work for you but only if you can put your own unique spin on this overly used indicator.

Edit: Here's a link to all the trading bible books on COT analysis


http://cotbase.com/resources/books

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Dunstan
 

Registered: Jul 2012
Posts: 136

 

07-26-12 08:19 PM

Hi 007Arb,

Thank you for your post! It is exciting to meet other traders here, who have been using COT analysis in their trading before. It would be much appreciated if you could join this topic and share your experiences with us or just give your thoughts about some of my conclusions I have made!

I believe that COT analysis on its own is not enough. I think it can be used in two ways: one way as a signaling tool, the other way as a confirmation tool, but in both cases one should have a solid system for trading, a system that can help you enter and exit trades.

In my thread I do not wish to go in to any specific system recommendations... I would be narrowing down the usage of it (COT analysis) to one type of time frame and tactic, which could leave out other great trades on different time basis and different strategies. What I mean by this, is that there are traders out there, who might be trading on shorter time frame, for example only on forex or a trader who prefers options on metal markets and on a longer time frame (from few weeks up to a couple of months) and they will be viewing the specific “formula” from different angles.

A lot of traders out there still do not have an idea, or might not even heard about Commitments of Traders Report. My goal is to introduce them to it and teach them the basis of COT analysis. After that it is the challenge of each viewer of my thread to do his or her historical analysis and back test their system with the integrated COT report.

What I do believe is this: Using COT analysis integrated in a tested system can filter out some bad trades or it may focus one’s attention to trading opportunities that the existing system might not have found on its own.

I think of COT analysis as a “car-part” --> It is like a GPS navigation system, or the windshield etc… Like let’s say the MACD histograms or bar charts or EMA-s are wheels, door knobs etc… I would say that a car on its self cannot get from A to B with only the wheels or only the engine. But a good combination of these elements can make a good car and that will definitely get you from A to B.

May I ask you if you have used the new type of COT reports in your trading yet? I’m talking about Disaggregated, CIT and TIFF reports that CFTC publishes these days… The service I use offers these reports as well, the charts look very interesting, but I haven’t started any “deep investigation” yet… have you?

All the best,
Dunstan

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mr double
 

Registered: Feb 2006
Posts: 673

 

07-26-12 09:27 PM

i;d like to long usd/jpy to 1,20-150 level,what the COT say about that?

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dandxg
 

Registered: Oct 2005
Posts: 4271

 

07-26-12 10:32 PM

I always found cot to lag too much but then I was daytradin. Swing trading it could work

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Option_Attack
 

Registered: Sep 2002
Posts: 384

 

07-27-12 01:55 AM


Quote from 007Arb:

Beginning in the very early 90s, I used the COT extensively while trading the stock index futures but threw it out long, long ago. You may want to read an article by Howard Simons in the June 1998 issue of Futures magazine. He counters the argument of the vendoring industry that trading on the COT is potentially lucrative. While he was only looking at one market, I tend to agree that it is just another overhyped indicator. Also long ago I use to montior the analysis of the COT guru (seems every indicator has its own guru) and was not impressed in the least.
Can't say it won't work for you but only if you can put your own unique spin on this overly used indicator.

---> http://www.amazon.com/Gary-Smith/e/...hr_dp_pel_pop_1

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